HELP!!! Save my love and little son

I know, it will sound unbeliavble when you read first a short story for wich I need help for amixout of my stock.

A woman, relation started as a sexgame in mind, with many mails and phonetalk and broke up. After 3 years, she find me again and for me it was still again just a sexgame TILL we met.

The firsttime we met, she fallow every word, every wish I spoke out without any doubt, and when she kneel in front of me without ever touching me, I feel like “she is the one I need before and for the rest of my life”. Started a unbelivble nice, hard, soft relation. (Details no needed. Just know, if you can understand, we are 100% fitting d/s couple)

But then comes our son. We stop all our “speical” hard games for our soul and live our time together just like a “normal” couple. Sure itwas hard, more for her then me. After the birth some financial problems make it hard to be regulary home like planned and done before. So we was again not able to fullfill the soulneeds.

Now; on friday I’m going home after 5-6 months for the first time. sure she says don’t come. But I know, it is my last chance to save the relation and the contact to my little son.

So;
she is nice, clever, selfsure and (was) only to me submassiv.

Now;
She have a wall around her because she don’t belve we can resolve the fin. problems so i can be again regularly every month at home.

Weapons;
AMMO to-go
2,5mcg TUTH (extra ordered for the come back because sex was our specialty, think if she ever start, we would have a chance again)
IO to-go double strenght
10mcg Androstenon (was planned for pure alpha-aura at work)
10mcg Alpha-Androstenol (was planned for pure alpha-aura at work)
10mcg Androsterone (was planed enchanger)

Experts; PLEASE!!!

PS: Hope I don’t need to explain more details about our relation.

Why are you away from home for such long periods of time? Are you having to work a job that takes you away?

The scenario I see is a very stressed out woman who is home alone taking care of a small child with no one to help her, worrying about finances all the time.

Pheromones are not going to fix your problem, my friend.

It will not fix the problems, and I know she have a very stressed time, and will have for 2-3 months more the stress. But more then I, she must see daddy,man is not only a dream and do his best and get the target surely.

I need help just to broke the first wall, because,I know and "read in hermails,words, loveis still there but wants to protect her life, feelings even if it cost our relation.

Pizzman … Xev is exactly right with her advice to you. You basically have a sheer cliff to climb here and before you even begin my suggestion is that your get your mind on the right track.

This IS NOT a pheromones are gonna come to the rescue scenario - it’s a PMan is gonna try to make it happen situation. So forget pheromones for now, take Xev’s advice, sit down and visualize and feel yourself in your loves position. She’s scared shitless - feels somewhat abandoned and sees a relationship that didn’t quite work out just the way she thought it might.

You have major changes to make unless all you really wanted from this relationship was to be a sperm donor having an ‘easy’ lay when you felt like it.

You’ve brought a little life into this world that didn’t ask to be here that you indicated you care about.

You say you have a love that you would like to keep. OK, man up and reposition yourself. Find a way to work closer if you can because you’ve got to be there for BOTH of them. If you can’t work that out, find a way to take them with you … assuming you can reconnect with her.

It’s a tough one but if you really want it you’re going to have to get with it and rearrange things.

The only product you have that may even remotely provide some assistance is I-Openness but frankly I’m not sure I would suggest you use anything to try to influence her … other than yourself.

Check back in and let us know how it goes.

People, don’t think I dont know my responsabilitys.

Exactly thats the point. Else, I would turn back and go away like a wanker. They are my love, my life AND responsibility. but I need time, few months more till everything starts to run as it must. They will have the desicion to live near to me or home when ever they want travel or say, daddy/honey, can you come over there this time.

Now it’s the time to make her feel that i’m there, not daeth or not running away. Now it’s time to refresh her feelings and hope. And I know, sex is not a medicine or solution. We never had sex just for fun. Sex was never for us the mechanical thing. For us is much more beheind it. Thats why I MUST break very fast her walls, resistance and use the few days very “full” with passion.

No one is questioning your sincerity … we’re responding to your request.
In my opinion you have to re-convince her. That works best when you’re coming from a place of strength and resolve.

Thank you.

The case is, I want to use everything possible to open the doors.Because just thisway I can give her power (she trust me “till now” everytime) to wait the few months. And in the case I don’t have much time to recover all the feelings and specially give her power, I wanted to use the pheros and not cry later why do I not use this or that one.

Sorry, pal, that’s an impossibility.

Women build up walls for a reason, and they don’t do it overnight. Walls take a long time to slowly build up, and any therapist, psychologist or pheromone user will tell you that they don’t come down overnight. If you try to remove her walls that quick you’ll end up damaging both of you, possibly beyond repair.

The only thing you can hope to do is possibly get through them, temporarily, but know even if that succeeds the walls will still be there, they have to be worked through carefully.

The best thing you can do is show her your sincerity, maintain eye contact as much as possible, and show her that you are willing to talk about the existing problems and that you have a plan that you are going to see through to the end that will improve the situation for all three of you. If you try to crash through her walls and just “screw her until the problem goes away” you will end up doing far more damage than good. Even with a d/s relationship (which I am very familiar with, btw), this goes beyond sex, even passion. This is a trust issue.

I guess my english is not enough to explain what I try to do. Sex is NOT the base of my action. And after months without seeing each other I don’t belive it will help to have ever a chance to be again together.

She have to see me, see that I’m still a live and that I’M still love her and listen that I respect what all she does for her and for our son alone.

Now I’m at a point to decide;

Fly home and show them 2 that I’m existing

OR

Send something for my son and sure also for her, some cloths or what ever …

Don’t know man, I think this is beyond anything pheromones can fix. It might help, but this is deep.

My thoughts are that you could do with reassuring her that you are reliable and dependable and that she can continue to trust you.

In your shoes I would go with Instant Gentleman plus either Instant Honesty and or a small amount of Androstenone. Instant Gentleman for warmth and dependability. You’re 41 so the classic androstenone/androsterone combination wouldn’t be expected to come off too sexual, particularly if you keep the androstenone right down. The androstenone adds to that solid masculine dependable signature. The Instant Honesty can really help to foster that trust you need.

Given what you have I would use 30-50 mcg Androsterone as an Instant Gentleman substitute and leave everything else out. Or hit the store pronto.

Good luck with it.

Pizzman,

You have a long road in front of you. Get on the plane and go visit, now and often as long as you have to travel for work. After all, the pheros won’t work if you aren’t there. You might also have a look at this website: Marriage Builders - Successful Marriage Advice I’m not trying to be judgemental, but it sounds to me like your love has some connection and conversation needs that you can’t meet with your current job arrangement. My thoughts and best wishes are with you.

Im not really experienced enough to give you advice about your marriage but personally i would go with instant openness . It might help you both get some real feelings out, It might also help reduce any “wall” that has been made.

I can’t comment lifewise, but pherowise, I’ll chime in.

Marc was thinking along the same lines as me. I’d have a solid base of Instant Gentleman, maybe 2-2.5 sprays. A touch of Instant Honesty, 2 sprays at 1x strength (make sure you’re ready for a verbal flood, for better or for worse). Some IFM maybe 1 spray, and 1-2 sprays of Instant Shine to polish things up.

I can’t say I’d add any androstenone. Btw, it’s androsteRONE that’s the safe, dependable male sig, not androsteNONE, be careful not to switch them up.

Thank you everybody.

I’m in a very worst situation. And sure I must be home, again and again and as long as I can stay there, talk with my wife. Not break the wall, thats impossible. I must remove it brick by brick.

My biggest scare is; what if my son ask me “are you going again”. Because I know he ask often “who is daddy”. Is it easyer to be wanker and don’t look back? But what would I’m then? Flesh without feelings. With my wife and son I find out the meaning of “why we are living”.

My plan for 2 days (and I hate the 2 days, because I can’t stay longer);

First as soon as I leave the plane;
2 x Instant Oppenness (on each wrist x 1) Hope to soften the start, make her more chatty.
1 x Instant Honesty on my right neck (hope she come to pick me up from the airport)
1 x 10mcg Androstenone, and layer 1 x 10mcg Androsterone on back neck (male sign comes slowely and later forced with the male dominaton)

This is for the airport and drive home, it takes about 45 minutes.

At home, depending on her reaktion and sure what our son does, comes TUTH maybe.

But most important is tha she feel open, yes, don’t crush the wall down, but slightly open the door a little. And feel that I’m trustable like before and the sitaton is so hard not because I want it.

Newbie question;

If i wear a pheromon,

as sample IO and she talk, that means in her deep she wants to talk, her, know and make her known?

Or TUTH and she get hot, that means she want in her deep to be with me?

Am I right? Because in the base pheromons are forcing just the deep willings of the people around EVEN if they fight against the feelings and try (maybe CAN) stop the actions.

Well, in theory, Openness should make her “open” up more to you and talk to you more rather than hold in her feelings.

Turn Up The Heat will not make her want to be with you, it will make her feel a sexual vibe from you. Now I do not know about D/S relationships, but given the circumstances that you described, a strong sexual vibe seems to be exactly what you DON’T want.

I understand when you say that sex was a big building block to your relationship but that may not necessarily be the right way to fix your problems.

In regards to “forced feelings/actions,” no, the pheromones will not make her body want to do anything. It is a slight “neuroinfluence” that may have an effect on her mood, but not so much her actions.

Go.

You clearly understand what needs to be said. You understand what needs to be done. Communicate that you understand what needs to be done. More important, communicate that you have a plan for how to make it happen and how to make it happen in a certain length of time.

You know what she needs. Respect. Her power. Make her know that she stands as your equal. Forget the D/s outside the bedroom. (yes, I do understand) That is about the expression of love. You both know that your responsibilities require more than love. Tell her you need more than a companion. Even more than a family. You need a life partner standing tall next to you to face the world together.

You might even be better off if these next few days were not about sex or love. You both have that right now, more intensely than you both can afford to admit. This is about finding a way to build a family. About finding a way to face the world and build a life together.

Never give up. Ever.

Even if it does not work this time, if you never give up, there will always be more time. Yes, every passing day, every passing year, is one less day, one less year that you will live the life that your heart beats for. I understand that. I understand that all too well. The only hope is to never surrender. Never give up. No matter what happens, no matter what she says now, keep working on the things you know will build your life together.

You know what needs to be done. Do it.

Oh, and just a little IO should do the trick.

Thank you OoohYahhh,

I’m the men who must care for his family. And she is my wife since she kneel the first time and give her to me MUST still standing right close to me.

Give up??? NEVER! In simple things like job, projects, money i never give up and get my target. And who belives i would ever leave my family have nothing else than air in his/her head.

IO and IH will be the 2 I use.

Never cheat, never lia to her. And she does the same. She even give more up to be with me in the years. Now, she can stock, build the wall (because of my powerless time) higher and stronger each day. But even a drop water again and again will open a way. I know that.

Will not give up if she lock the door, don’t show the face or talk. I will be sad/mad/broken but still fight and fallow my plan.

To talk, Oppenness and Honesty to make her (even if she never doubt to say something she think) more free with her feelings to speak out. Just one word showed me the hope in the last week. and we talk for hours on the phone. She don’t want to say some deep feelings, hope to “kick” me away this way and be alone to start her new??? life. So she would say her self “he is gone, what do I have to do else!” But NO,I will fight till end of “all”.

Sex is just part of allIF she open slightly the door, if she start to come closer, stand right next to me again, to make her feel our need and remember good time again and give power to stand a little time more even ifshe would not that close like before.