Need help with what I should wear as she wants to talk about it tonight.
She’s says it’s about everything but me being a dick, not caring and thinking I’m always better. But she still wants to be friends. And don’t want to get friendzoned. She also says she’s attracted to me but not romantically attracted to me… please help.
I have the following:
NPA
A1
A314
IO x1
IH x1
IJ x1
AMMO x2
CTTM2
MX297
MX351
MX352
TAC
p83
p93
p98
p102
p125
p134
Cancel tonight..! No phero will help you just now.
Don’t get dragged-in to talking about it - negotiating attraction is almost always the ultimate passion killer and IME she’s most likely looking for you to hand her the excuse to ditch you all by yourself or for your behaviour to justify her decision.
So don’t give her the pleasure - or your balls on a plate. Also, if it is going to be possible to turn her round, your passing this test will be the first step.
Don’t be a dick about it of course - just firmly tell her something else has come-up or that you simply need space for yourself just now and don’t let her see you are bothered by her at all - Then put the shutters-up till she has had time to stew for a good bit before getting back in touch - Then is the time to reintroduce yourself and a new phero sig.
Some more info about the girl, her age. personality, outlook etc would help inform our suggestions better.
If she’s lost attraction, can you discern just what turned her-on to you in the first place and what’s changed since then? That is what it will really be all about.
I agree completely. Shut down the town! Regroup and approach from a different angle. Right now you are in a position of weakness and no amount of talking and meeting will fix the situation. Give her time to miss not being around you or hearing from you.
Just tell her:
‘Hey, I understand, no need to explain yourself or apologize to me. I truly appreciated the time we had together and I only wish you good things to come. Take care.’
Then cut ALL contact with her for AT LEAST 1 month.
If you answer any texts or pick up any calls from her, you lose.
okay update:i showed up and just went to bed not expecting anything and then she started putting the moves on me and the rest is pretty obvious.
she wants to be friends and wants to have a conversation in person . i said sure just let me know when. i really like her aside from this bullsh and don’t want to give up just yet.
thanks again guys
side note i once mixed up some NPA with a cologne at recommended dosage and sprayed it on me and asked what she thought and she really didn’t like it. not sure if that may help with choosing the correct mone profile for the future.
OK, so that’s a pretty good indicator that she will likely be more used to scenarios that involve rather more severe emotional/mood swings than most of us relatively normal guys are experienced with. Remember that - I’m not defending it at all but remember it!
That’s fine - you do need to be able to think on your feet and be responsive to the moment.
Excellent - you took back control and completely wrong-footed her her in one deft move. Whatever she had intended to say probably went completely out of her head and her emotions took-right-over! You want more of this. 
Personally I’d have let her stew a bit longer - which really increases the impact but again, you did as you felt right in the situation, so again that is moving things over to your terms and she’s the one who needs to follow/catch-up, so all is still good.
OK, this is where you started to backslide. Having reconnected briliantly, you went back to giving her too much of your time/attention. To keep attraction going, she needs to miss you and find you unexpected/different - especially so with her background. You should have found reasons to keep some distance from her and let her emotions do the hard work for you.
NEVER, but NEVER call a woman out on her behaviour or give her a piece of your mind. This immediately puts you in a passion killing state and looks weak, needy and even pathetic too-boot. If she wants you, she needs to be the one proving herself to you, and if she is strongly attracted, she will. So until then, just keep it noncomittal and no-strings, on your terms only!
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i said sure just let me know when. does she want to do it to validate not having feelings in person when she sees me?
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I’m thinking that she does have feelings (and the pheros may be helping strongly here) and they are alien/troubling to her (again not unconnected to her upbringing) and she’s not quite able to deal with them. So she’s giving you maximum rope for you to hang yourself by giving her the validation for why-not or just simply giving her your blls on a plate.
Personally I would avoid the meeting like the plague. Don’t tell her you need space, just take it for yourself. Also, never try to negotiate attraction - again, a complete passion-killer.
By all means keep friendly - There is nothing to be gained by being an arsehole here so keep your integrity and self respect foremost, esp as she seems to be the one being far less than friendly to you and until she starts to want more from you and invest herself properly, that is how you keep it.
She may well be testing you but I’d disregard the female advice here - It may be from a caring POV and obviously good sense but attraction rarely works that way. IMO, she is far more likely to be seriously turned-on by something akin to the behaviours she has previously suffered from - And this may be another reason for her desire for meetings and talks. She may have daddy-issues but you really don’t want to be her “daddy” and she may just be trying to force you into that mould. IME women in this position often do it just so they can rebel/hit harder against you - and with better reason in their minds.
Fine - Just be firm and polite for now, keep any communication to the absolute bare minimum and focus on other stuff, let her stew for a month and then re-introduce yourself to her as a smarter, more positive/upbeat/dashing and experienced man.
NPA can be a right-one for smell IME - and it can be a fucker for sudden breakdown to stink, esp in hotter/sweaty conditions. Maybe try a different cologne, step-up your personal care routine and apply it over a very light application of good quality hand lotion (slows absorbtion/breakdown) or keep it for applying close to the times she is most likely to find it tasty. As well as the smell, she may be having an unexpected phero-response and she is simply using the smell as an excuse.
first off thank you mobo, and alright ill just keep telling her that i’m busy every-time. or should i only respond once to them once in awhile. im sure the question of “if we are still are frieds” will arise? do i simply tell thats up to her and if she decides to continue to minimize me or simply not asnwer or make her feel stupid and say isnt this what have been this whole time(as we never were officially dating but “taking it day by day and see where it goes” as she worded it)? also, do i slow down with my facebook posts as she is friends with me on there so she doesn’t know what i’m up to as i normally post a lot of funny captioned photos and her preferred method of contacting me through the messenger so she’s on there a lot. do i flirt with other girls in the class even though she’s there as i don’t have a problem and not bad looking by all means? thanks again mobo
also do you think p96 with emotion properties is a good new sig to add or use to replace something or should i try just IFM for when classes start?
my current pherobomb was as follows:
3 drops A314
80-100mcg A1
2 sprays IH x2
2 sprays IO x1
2 sprays IS x2
a very tiny drop off the stem of togo IJ x1
You need to create as much space between you and her within your capability. I would focus on that more than your phero bomb.
P96 is a very useful phero that helps get feelings out in the open, yes - I would definitely go with that.
If you are already using A1 and do ok with it, then there isn’t really any need to seek-out ancient bottles of IFM as A1 is its primary ingredient.
24 should be fine for allowing a reasonable dose of sexuals, so you could maybe use a bit more None in the mix - but maybe TUTH instead of IJ as it will be easier to dose. Also remember that you already have a sexual history with her, so she is much more likely to positively respond to an overt sexual on you in the right situation However I am wondering if three drops A314 might be too much for her that’s a lot for a younger woman IMO
80-100mcg A1 is a lot! You are running the risk of making that mix so overmoderated that you won’t sexualise it with any amount of None - even IJ!
Too much A1 in a mix also runs the very real risk of flattening/obliterating the effects of every other mone in the mix. I would strongly suggest you cut back on that element drastically!
The IO is largely superflous IMO - There is already ample moderation in this mix and whilst it won’t harm the A1, IO can be very damaging to damaging to the emotional engagement/fallout properties of A314/IH/IS - and the IH/IS combo does a very similar job to IO - but better quality/easier to handle.
So i should not post snapchat stories? As she has been watching them like a hound one after the other but i make sure i dont give her the satisfaction of watching hers. Although totally disappearing off the radar sounds like a pretty reasonable idea too
I’ve no doubt she will be watching and this can work to your advantage as she will likely be desperately looking for validation/info about you - and this itself says something about the feelings she might be trying to obscure/deny. 
So this is one you need to judge for yourself - I’d say to continue doing what you do but be very careful to ensure it doesn’t look like you are doing it for her benefit or that you are seeking any contact/info about her.
If she sees you living your life, enjoying yourself without haunting her and that her absence is not putting you up or down either way, the effect is likely to be emotionally devastating to her - in the best way possible for you.
I’ve been in a similar position with an ex - and on the times I did let her see me, it had clearly been driving her wild - and the addition of pheros helped tip things into even more exciting territory. 
So yea she messaged me asking if i atill want to talk and i replied with just “busy” and then she said she meant tomomrow and i told her i wont be around. Was that being a little too short and dry you think?
No, that’s just fine - However don’t let her draw or even goad you any further into explaining yourself or any arguments about it.
Just step right back from her and keep your dignity/self respect intact if the fireworks start. She will settle down after a while!
Also should i sit by her in class and just pretend like nothing ever happened as we always have sat in the back(before anytging happened between us) or no?
Just keep-on doing what you do.
Don’t go obviously out of your way to avoid her and be positive, polite and upbeat if you do see her. Don’t avoid the issue if she brings it up but treat it as no big deal and absolutely do not get dragged into discussing it in public.
She asked if im around again, havnt responded. Do i just tell her im busy, its no big deal and if shes happy im happy?
Personally I wouldn’t reply. Wait till I see her in person instead and don’t make anything of it.
You should also read a good book titled “How to Become An Alpha Male” by Jason Alexander. Another good book to read it Double Your Dating by David DeAngelo. They are pretty basic, but very good in teaching you how to handle women, how to deal with and pass all their shit tests, and by doing so, becoming an alpha male with high status, who demands the best of women. I think you’ll do very well by learning and applying what you learn in them.
Thanks dssmaster. A small update she keeps trying with small conversations. I simply respond because she can see that i get the messages and read them but with one word answers only hours later. The last one i just simply read and said fuck it as shes trying to get momentum even with one word responses. Im almost at the point where i just wana tell her. im not your friend lol but im not too sure if thats a good idea as i dont even know what her perogative is to begin with..ha
Stop responding! - You absolutely do not need to feel that you have to reply to everything from her.