Starting out with 'mones: Takin' it nice and slow... NOT!

I don’t believe straight up TUTH, I ever used it solo at work. Normally, because I work in an office environment and did not need to have a horn dog vibe going on distracting or making others uncomfortable. When I say distracting this includes ME, because TUTH does seem to affect ME as well. I get a bit flushed and ornery with it on. I CAN be distracted from my work focus with this on. :slight_smile:

In other settings, like out with friends, sometimes this would make others and even my wife would be uncomfortable.
I last posted a bit about it here:

I’m in the same boat my friend. My best friend out here and my wingman who I always refer to massentropy" had swollen tonsils. It started causing him to cough a lot. He went to the doctor and they said post nasal drip! I said BS get a second opinion. Another doctor said it was pneumonia and he needed to have his lungs drained via surgery.

On May 21st he went to surgery and when the doctor opened him up he determined it was advanced mesothelioma and a death sentence. Relieved some of the pressure, closed him up and told him to make his peace. He would be dead in less than a year.

Today he is in Boston undergoing a radical surgery to remove his lung, diaphragm, ribs, part of his heart. Its a 7-8 hour surgery and the median survival rate is 41 months.

We are all hoping and praying but I still feel so devastated and honestly won’t know what I will do.

All we can do is keep positive and pray. Our slogan is “when there is hope in the equation, anything is possible.” I hope, I really do hope.

So sorry to hear that Steve. I do wish he gets that survival rate and more.

Positive Heart felt thoughts for you and him.

And same for you my friend

I used A314 and found myself being ASKED my opinion constantly at a meeting. I was trying for the aloof, don’t talk to me, I want to just LISTEN to y’all vibe, with it, but the single drop of A314, with this mornings, P97, @ 5 hours ago app of 100 mu, was getting me TOO much attention for my input.

NOT what I wanted but, had the mental fortitude necessary to plod through the meetings. One of those things that MUST be done.


This is what I felt like while this all was happening. I should have pumped UP the drops of A314 to get the FEAR of approaching me dialed up, but, hey, hindsight is 20/20, right?

The P97 doesn’t seem to have a direction. It’ll just fortify the emotional state that I found myself at the time. Changing from one emotional state to another was a bit like a wheel in a rut to move to another channel was difficult. ONCE I added the A314, in self effects, the A314 was overbearing in seriousness.

I’ll have to tone down P97 with A314 and see where THAT takes me.

I posted this here:

The Cordless Journal

I recommend you take a look at Cordless’ journal as he does provide some insight, IMO, to mone applications.

Onwards!

What I emphasized from your comment below, that is so true. The mones provide the chemical signal but YOU provide the social finesse to make the mones blossom. You need to be flexible in your interactions with others.

Here is my though process on this. Wearing IO or CTTM2 may incline people to come and search you out for your opinion or thoughts. People seem to have an unconscious inclination to a hierarchical social structure where some are the leaders and some are not. Does that mean, because you wear IO YOU will need to know it all? Of course not. Sometimes, we all have to let others lead because that person ‘has’ to lead (knows the way, has in depth knowledge, etc), and we DON’T, or at least shouldn’t, take offense that that person is now the center of attention. Even at our expense.
If taken wrongly, and I grumble, hem and haw about it or just become disagreeable, such unpleasant messages as these in a particular group can cause from a discomfort to be around me to a disdain from those in the group. EVEN IF I’M WEARING IO, CTTM2, IShine, ETC! My social standing has suffered and mones will NOT clear things up, UNLESS, my actions in the group are also modified.

You can either be the person who others can look up to, believe in, and trust or become egotistical in your interactions to the detriment of your social position in you group.
A person cannot ALWAYS lead, know it all, and be ‘alpha’. A person needs to have the strength of character to know when to lead, when to follow and always respect and dignify others. Your body language, behaviour, and attitude have to dynamically change in your social environment.

I posted this here:

I recommend you take a look at Cordless’ journal as he does provide some insight, IMO, to mone applications.

One thing I also thought about is that being in situations where you let others take the lead, this will, of course, impact how others will perceive you. What your status happens to be in your social group. HOWEVER, each ONE of us can CHANGE that signal around, becoming involved in modifying our social status. Our mones will help, but we steer them with our body language, facial expression, behaviour, and even our tone of voice. Time delay from the transgression will help, as it will not be fresh in mind, however, you will STILL need to be active in your ‘social salvage’ operation.
Sorry, I got a bit ahead of myself, sort of like the cart before the horse with my wandering comments here. It will become clearer as you read on. Scouts honor! :wink:

Onwards! To my post on the Cordless’ journal! :smiley:

What I emphasized from your comment below, that is so true. The mones provide the chemical signal but YOU provide the social finesse to make the mones blossom. You need to be flexible in your interactions with others.

Here is my thought process on this. Wearing IO or CTTM2 may incline people to come and search you out for your opinion or thoughts. People seem to have an unconscious inclination to a hierarchical social structure where some are the leaders and some are not. Does that mean, because you wear IO YOU will need to know it all? Of course not. Sometimes, we all have to let others lead because that person ‘has’ to lead (knows the way, has in depth knowledge, etc), and we DON’T, or at least shouldn’t, take offense that that person is now the center of attention. Even at our expense.
If taken wrongly, and I grumble, hem and haw about it or just become disagreeable, such unpleasant messages as these in a particular group can cause from a discomfort to be around me to a disdain from those in the group. EVEN IF I’M WEARING IO, CTTM2, IShine, ETC! My social standing has suffered and mones will NOT clear things up, UNLESS, my actions in the group are also modified.

You can either be the person who others can look up to, believe in, and trust or become egotistical in your interactions to the detriment of your social position in you group.
A person cannot ALWAYS lead, know it all, and be ‘alpha’. A person needs to have the strength of character to know when to lead, when to follow and always respect and dignify others. Your body language, behaviour, and attitude have to dynamically change in your social environment.

You can take my early insights with a grain of salt. I was overly excited in the beginning and may have been influenced by what I’ve read or by the placebo effect. Sometimes I had negative reactions from some mones that I wrote off as not being good for me. I then would later have a good reaction and then change my mind. Also, being married and not in the PUA scene, I wouldn’t be searching or following through with some interactions that could have led to more.

I’ve taken a lesson from Steve to just live my life and not try to over-analyze whether this mone or that mone had the desired effect.

Whoa… I haven’t posted?!
I know I had some reports that I needed to post… I’ve been slacking.

Shame on me. I need the Paddle to the Buttocks. A couple of good swings, if you please! :wink:

By the by, I had some interesting responses to -none, XS massage oil, with A314… I was choked while being ridden with this combination. I was shocked, surprised, and happy all rolled into one. I have seen my A like that in ages.

I’ll be back to put up a couple of journal entries that I have written up, but not posted here. That should whet your appetite… :slight_smile:

I’m on a mone ‘holiday’, so will post back my thoughts on this and my start up again. Thinking a couple of weeks, maybe more? No more than a month… :wink:

Yeah, right!

Ciao!

1Alpha

Good stuff, with a bit of a break from mones, I’ve been focusing on my social skill set, facial responses, verbal q’s, and body language. I can really view how these all work in unison to get me where I want to go.

I just need to get them all to point in the same direction. I started back on the mone horse with A314 and P74 (@10 mu, Chocolantini… mmm… chocolatini…:wink:) and find that it still provides the high quality respect of A314 and will color it with a pull of want… wanting to be around me and a bit of the star struck feel to it.
I was getting a sub at one of those joints and the gal, a early 20 something, was about to give me the standard shpeal… Are you ready to order?? When I beat her to it and Asked Her… Are YOU ready to take My order? With a smile on my face. She really looked at me, eye to eye, and reciprocated with a Yes, I’m very ready for you. I told her, you’re giving me a warm and toasty feeling without even knowing what kind of sub I want… I could tell you ARE someone that keeps customers Happy. Though, you ARE NOT taking my order… and smile.
She laughs and says, I AM ready for you to tell me.

So we continue on with the order. Warm fuzzy feelings with this, I was someone to look up to and find of interest in an experienced Man kind of way. I was sure of my self in speech and actions per the self effects of A314. The attraction and allure of experience, from this young gal and the cashier, another one of similar age, was palpable by the smiling between them, the furtive eye movement and the touch of my hand, without there being a need…

Have to continue to try out some P131 and P130 (again). I have some other mones lined up as well that I’m testing out and will continue onwards on this thread. :smiley:

1Alpha

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Ok, quick update:

My nephew, 26, has been using P74, Akuto scented, and LOVES it. His is a 5 mu.
His take on P74:
Fun in a bottle. Makes him and those around him more relaxed and at ease. When he gets funny, others seem to find him more so than usual. Good stuff for work and play.

He also tried out IG, and says:
This is a serious scent. I can tell I get serious, though not in a mad faced sort of way. Just more focused on the here and now. I like it as well and would have to think about where I can use it to be most effective.


As to my own mone use I had tried out this combination, one of my standards, and still get good results. A314 + IShine, sweet nectar… :smiley:

A314 x 3 drops along with IShine 4x regular, gets you discounts galore at a home health food place. I got an additional 20% discount on everything I bought. :slight_smile: Just for asking if there was more of a discount… I was speaking with an assistant manager and bam! he says sure, you’re such a Good Customer, (first time at this place), I’ll give you my own discount. I’ll ‘take care of you’…

:smiley:

1Alpha

To clarify a bit on my nephew’s applications, he will normally use 2 sprays of P74 to each side of the neck, for a total of 10 mu of P74 for his day and will not reapply until he gets home.

The IG, will be the same amount of sprays and by itself as well.

Flying today… NOT to New Zealand or Australia! So, no, I’m NOT going to go see Spinach. :slight_smile: That’ll just get me in trouble!!!

Travel for work and will be out. I’m wearing A314 x 6 drops and IH x 4 (Reg strength) and IShine x 4 (Regular Strength).

I’ll check out if this gets me into any trouble with the TSA or not.

I wonder if a cabin full of mone inhaling people will react to this combination? Will there be much more smiles and intimate talk?!

We shall see… we shall see…

1Alpha

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You are missed, sir!

Why, thank you for the post, gotha! You made my day by that expression of loss. I will TRY to be better at updating my journal entries. :slight_smile:

I thought I was posting only for myself. But, you have shown me that I still have ONE reader of my journal. :wink:

With sincere gratitude,

1Alpha

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I’ve got A LOT to learn! Been using mones for about a year, but still not really understanding them nor getting a different treatment from peers. In other words, no hitssss :>(

And YOUR journal provides excellent insight into understanding mones! Don’t you ever stop posting less than once a week!!!

Now, sirs, I will say that Summer Edition AMMO is a great mone product. I have used 2 sprays of it to the back of my neck and throat area. Or, behind my ears and in all of these cases, I’m getting good response from others. My personal app preference is 2. With 1, the reactions are just visible with the same exposure time of 1 to 2 minutes as with 2 sprays. I would need to reduce the space to my target and extend the time frame toward 10 minutes, to get near the reactions of 2 sprays. The space reduction is easier with family, a bit tougher for people I didn’t know. The harder issue would be increasing the time exposure around people I don’t know as mostly are in the service industry.
The point I’m also making here is don’t be afraid of AMMO for daytime use. It can be used effectively for confidence as well as attraction. You just need to moderate it with your convo’s and actions.

Family: I’m visiting extended family for a bit and have found that nieces and nephews are MUCH more friendly and wanting to talk. Compliments for my attire and hair cut are common. Some are a bit shy around me as well. Once I bridge that gap with my smile and debonair ways, things are good. Others that are my age are respectful, men and women.

Friends: Some women folk are a bit more blatant with the interest, one in particular. Though, I don’t invite or flirt as it were. It’s more of a attraction on their part of the mone producing a confident sexy male vibe, and with my generous smile along with genuine conversations and interest, sparks that attractive interest subconsciously as the kino, smiles and eyes showed this. Some guy friends would be fine with the mone signal and others would feel a bit threatened. Then feel a bit surprised and confused by that reaction.

Unknowns: People I meet up at the store and being out in the city will not seem to show the attraction and interest in conversations unless I dial up the my own interest in them and smiles. Then, if it’s only interactions for a minute or two, things end up being in pleasant territory when I leave. Though, one asian gal, looked like Thai or Filipina, at the dry cleaner’s was particularly ‘smiley’ with me as I walked into the shop. This increased to the point of her feeling attracted AND uncomfortable by it. Although I wasn’t being attended by her, she would hover around to see what’s happening and chime in shyly when she could. I would respond to her comments with a smile and friendly banter. Keep in mind, though, I’m not pushing for interest or flirting. So, along with my attitude and smiles, the AMMO does push things forward giving others an interest in me.

I’ve seen this occur as attitude and smiles, when I use WITHOUT mones, MAY lead things to pleasant territory. More likely, IME, takes me to slightly more than indifference. It’s what I normally see. Need to work on my ‘social game’? Yes! Will mones help smooth things out with a less than stellar ‘game’? Absolutely! :slight_smile:

FOR ME, 2 sprays of SE AMMO is good enough. I’ve done 3 and 4 sprays, but at that range, it gets a bit too sexy than I’m comfortable wearing for day time. I’ve noticed, consistently, though, that at 3 sprays or more, I’m getting a bit of a headache with it. @ 2, it’s only occasionally a slight headache. I’ve tried 5 sprays of it and the headache was splitting. Not going there again as it was A) uncomfortable to me and 2) Too Sexy… [nomedia=“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39YUXIKrOFk”]Right Said Fred - I’m Too Sexy (The Original) - YouTube[/nomedia] :smiley:

1Alpha

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I wasn’t aware that some people thought ammo was only for night use! Of course your posts are always informative my friend but yeah wow. I think Ammo, especially the summer blend, is PERFECT for day time attraction. This is a very thought provoking thread :slight_smile:

I know its been a while since you posted my friend, but wishing you a very joyous new year :slight_smile:

HI Steve!! :slight_smile:

Thanks for the good wishes! Have yourself a good 2013 as it seems that December 2012 WASN’T then end of the world… :wink:

I’m in a tough place, now with helping family out along with the adventure of working remotely. Sickness and age are not good bedfellow! :frowning: The missus and I are doing what we can to help out after a death in the family. May be a while here getting used to the Winter Snow!

1Alpha