I reread the original post many times, but wasn’t able to find anything offensive or mean at all in Beny’s post 
And he mentioned more than once that he was very polite, but wasn’t attracted to women. So I don’t get how the “dont be mean” thing started 
Edit : to “the” women, not women in general 
She’s/He’s bored, yes?
As for the unwanted hits … ya recon ya gotta tak’it da bitter wit da saweets, mannn!?
Dude, pheromones clearly do work for sexual attraction, you just didn’t end up attracting who you wanted to attract.
Don’t trip about the unwanted hits, now you know what it’s like to actually look good. Kidding. As NJM said, just be aware that when you’re wearing pheromones, you are sending out messages to everyone, and that means you’re responsible for any further interactions as a result of your original message.
If I’m acting a fool in the middle of an intersection, I shouldn’t be surprised that I attracted a cop, unwanted or not.
So you know pheromones work, it’s just a matter of learning how to steer the vibe in the direction you want it to go. I recommend the advice given on here, go with more socials and ditch the TUTH until you know what suitable doses are, when to use it, etc…
Instant Shine and the -nols can take you far.
Um…Ok, first he made a point of mentioning that she was older than him and that she wasn’t good looking. There’s no reason for that, but he added it. He could have told the story just as well without adding that in.
You can’t come to this forum, read up on what pheromones to wear to attract people then treat someone like garbage because you don’t find them attractive when it was THE PHEROMONES YOU ORDERED TO WEAR THEY WERE RESPONDING TO. He was being a jerk (I DID NOT CALL HIM A JERK, I SAID HE ACTED LIKE ONE), pure and simple. He admitted he purposely ignored and tried to avoid eye contact with her. So much so that there might have been females he would have been interested in around, but he was too busy treating the females he felt weren’t up to snuff poorly to notice. I am not sorry for how I feel. It’s my opinion, and I am entitled to it. There is NO reason to be mean to someone who was simply being nice to you, especially because it’s due to your own doing that they were being so. It wouldn’t have taken him anything out of his day to be nice to the woman. She was nice enough to give him an apple, even after he purposefully treated her bad…and accepted said apple. You have a choice every time you come into contact with someone…to be nice or not to be nice. He made the choice not to be nice..he went so far to be purposefully rude. What would you call that?
Look, I am not trying to be mean here. I am just trying to give a POV that some may not think of. I get hit on by people I have no interest in daily. But I 'm not a bitch. I simply say I am taken, smile, and move on. Many people think wearing pheros is like the movie Love Potion #9 and only those who they want are going to be attracted. If I acted like a bitch when every guy I wasn’t interested in approached me, I’d be bitchy a lot. And what good would it do? He’d call me names (rightfully so) or worse. Maybe sometimes people don’t get me, but I don’t want to perpetuate bad feelings. It costs me nothing in money or time to simply be nice and extract myself from the situation gracefully.
ask steveo for advice. instead of holding your energy in, fill your heart with love. if you tease and flirt with every woman, even those you are not attracted to you may find that good things happen. eric at approachanxiety.com is also good
No, NJM, I think you make very valid points about turning people down gently. I’m sure a lot of guys here would have preferred that some women turn them down a little more politely as well. I have heard some awful rejection stories. I’m sure we all have. So keeping that it mind, even if you’re not attracted to said woman/man, remember how you’d feel if the roles were reversed, and you’ll want to turn them down nicer rather than rudely.
That being said, NJM, while his words speak for themselves, we don’t fully know his reasons for avoiding eye contact, or for any of the other behavior he exhibited. Firstly, we don’t know if there were factors that either he neglected to mention in his post, or he simply overlooked himself. Secondly, what might seem like a logical motivator for you, might be at all what he considered a logical motivator.
When you highlighted mid-30s not-very-good-looking woman I didn’t really look at it that way. I had originally just read it as reason why I wasn’t attracted/didn’t follow up. Simply that, also an opinion, not necessarily a judgment. While you are correct that it could be considered an unnecessary detail one could also assume that most guys here will want to know if the woman was at least ‘hot’. Eventually, her relative attractiveness will be disclosed.
As for avoiding eye contact, maybe I should start taking it personally when some people avoid eye contact with me? Sometimes I’m more comfortable not making eye contact with someone because I don’t want to invite further interaction. That’s not being rude, that’s non-verbally indicating my disinterest.
Now where, the OP might have been rude, is upon receiving a complimentary apple and offered grated cheese. Perhaps it might have been prudent to be a bit more a gentleman and gracefully acknowledge her generosity. But again, I’m sure details were omitted and I’m sure the OP was relatively polite as he mentions.
I realize you’re very sensitive to judgments and that’s understandable, judgments can certainly get out of hand. But either way, I don’t think that was the OPs intention. He was just bewildered and unsure about how to react to a blatant hit, albeit from a subject he didn’t fancy so much. Now all that remains is for him to go refine his pheromone technique to send out the right vibes.
Somewhat similar to your own thread, in that, they were both unwanted hits. 
And from what I read in there, you’re very well aware of ‘being responsible for the vibes you send out’. 
Reading over the forum for some time, I don’t particularly have much time to respond to threads much less read all the valuable information to be found in threads. This one has struck a chord with me and as such I believe it to be prudent to offer my point of view.
PheroQuirk as always has hit the nail on the head. Flirting with every woman is indeed a way to open your heart with love and passion. Stephen, if you ask him, I am certain would be willing to provide help in this area. From my personal time that I have spent with him I have watched him develop into quite an individual. I still find it incredible the journey he has taken as a man and at the same time find his passion inspiring. I’m sure if he has the time he would be more than willing to help you, but of course he is the only one who can answer that. More on his journey to follow as it is pertinent to my reply.
I respond to this thread for two reasons. Firstly I am a bit perturbed by the demeaning position of a forum member to call another names simply because he did not want to make eye contact and apparently there was an age difference. I do not subscribe to this type of antagonism and find it offensive. There are countless individuals who find it challenging to make and keep eye contact with people they do like, let alone those who they are intimidated by. Believe it or not, men can be easily intimidated by those who they are not attracted to just as easily as those who they are. The original poster benny should not have insinuations made about his character because he did not like someone based on their looks or age. From my standpoint, he came here with a legitimate desire soliciting help from other forum members on how to handle a situation that made him uncomfortable. He merely stated background information about the persons age and that he did not find her attractive.
There are many people I run into daily that I am not attracted to, but certainly this does not make me villainous. Many more whom I’ve met who are either, by my standards, too young or old. I certainly would not consider dating someone in their sixties or older. This is based on age alone, but on that same chord nor would I date someone younger than thirty. It’s a decision I have made and feel comfortable with to stand by. Again this does not imply that I am a “stuck up ass” nor should it imply to anyone else. The OP (original poster) did not call anyone names and as such no one should be permitted to call him names. Although from what I have experienced this forum is most likely the most open forum on the Internet, I do believe this is the type of behavior that should not be permissible.
On that note NormaJeanMarilyn, why is it OK for you to post your disinterest in your post: Holy SH!T!!! You GOTTA read this!! when clearly you are not attracted to your client? You actually do call him a name based upon body composition; and this to you is all right? However there are many questions that have been posted on that thread asking why you would wear a sexual attractant to a clients house, let alone one you obviously were not attracted to. You responded by accusing those who questioned you of malice.
Every one is entitled to their opinion, but in the words of the illustrious Michael Harris: “Let’s keep this environment upbeat and supportive.”. Clearly this is not your intention in your reply to benny.
I’m also a bit perplexed by your reply PhatSounds. I do recall you reporting in the lounge about how you would discontinue posting because StreetArson opined on your thread contradictory from what others say. I disagree with StreetArson’s theory, but he never called you names. In fact many users came to your defense and agreed with me, although I did not post, that your posts are valued and you are liked here. This does not mean StreetArson is a bad person only that his opinion was disagreed upon. I’m a bit surprised by you to take up a stand for name calling when you yourself was not called anything and yet you took quite a bit offense too.
To further my intentions of replying to this post and to clarify what PheroQuirk has stated I had an opportunity to meet Stephen’s girlfriend the other evening over dinner. A stunning women that stands out in a crowd and could easily grace the cover of any fashion magazine. This young lady screams class and yet her vibrant youthful demeanor accentuates her brilliance and plays wistfully on her passion for life. I do say my very dear and loved friend Stephen, this girl is an absolute treasure and you my friend have been blessed to have her in your life. Clearly you radiate whenever she is around you and I can see how she has influenced you.
I will need to follow up a bit later as I am late for a client appointment, but I do want to finish this, however late the time might become. Till later I bid you ado.
Hahaha, speaking about rejection stories, I have 2 or 3 clubbing with A314… in a sense, it makes you to good for most people, unless you’re with the high society; if not, you could be toying with a young girl and having a great time (I have no doubt about that, the comments are so f**king obvious 
), for her to “flee” later, not accepting to continue partying somewhere more intimate… One has to look for more expert/mature/open-minded/higher self-steem women. Or for girls/women you already have a friendship/some confidence with, it will make them want you (and sometimes WOW! reactions will happen…)
I do not find A314 a keeper for prowling over regular people… Maybe that’s because I’ve not used it with very high androstenone spooning every girl on sight LOL
Avoiding eye contact sometimes is related to a low self-esteem here, he’s shy or so he said, it’s a manifestation of fear. That happened to me when I was much younger, and some girls even took a good effort to pick me up.
beny, you need to start learning to focus your mind (some meditation), as when your awareness is perfectly focused on something else you won’t get a hit, avoiding possible confusion. When you think on someone, believe me, you vibrate your thoughts to her/him, which are received in his/her subconscious. As above, so below.
A judgment is an opinion, and serves no purpose. Beauty archetypes are inspired by nature and inconsciously/consciously programmed in our minds, attraction however is purely in our subconscious.
LOL LOL LOL I love that! For example, (2-4)x A314 + (3+)x IS(2x) + (2-3)x Raw Power is enough to steal the show at will at the clubs. Everyone will be paying attention to you! Hits galore! And nice compliments like “…you’re the sexiest boy here in the [club name]!”
Wow! Nuff for an explanation.
Cheers
I’m waving the white flag since it’s obvious that no matter what I say since I am a woman I won’t be understood. It’s all good though.
Oh please, stop the posturing . Not one person here has said anything derogatory to you. I have not read anything to indicate that anyone here thinks less of you because you are a women. It is an inflammatory remark that is uncalled for.
In fact the “tongue lashing” you referred too was a PM from me giving you my opinion that you were harsh calling benny names. Regardless of if it was an opinion or not, we do not call each other names in this forum. 
no shit…
Guys:
In Beny’s defense, he did mention that he was pretty much polite throughout the whole situation. I don’t think he has experienced this before, so the way he dealt with may be due to the surprise. After all, most times men are aggressive and persistent, in this case she was.
I don’t see where he intentionally tried to hurt this person’s feelings.
I do agree that Pheros will signal many different types of people, and that we should all be aware that this will occur.
I just spoke with doc love and asked him to please refrain from furthering any comments about my girlfriend on the forum. I’m not comfortable with it guys. I really like her and would rather leave my personal life personal.
DocLove meant well but he knows to much about me and my life to be sharing it with anyone else. Lori does appreciate the compliments and says anytime you want to throw more around you can call her on her phone.
Wait a minute, why do you have her phone number?
You’re absolutely right Romulus. We all need to be aware that pheromones have effects on everyone, even those we are not attracted too.
Me personally try to interact with everybody. What the good doctor was going to tell you before he admitted his secret lustful desires for my girlfriend is that I talk to absolutely everyone. I take interest in everyone. Tonight while out to dinner with “friends” I was also very rudely on the phone with the awesome Tisha. We were discussing forum matters. I know it was rude, but I don’t have a whole lot of time to do things.
Anyway I gather value from everybody because everybody has value to offer. I purposefully asked Tisha to hold while I openly flirted with Desiree. Did I know she just turned 17? It didn’t matter because I wasn’t trying to get sexual. I was gaining experience, learning about her life which was interesting, making a new friend, and letting my friends at dinner, especially Lori, see that I was socially accepted and other women find me charming and attractive. Jeez have you seen my picture? What’s not to love?
Even though Desiree is 17 (a kid) I made another friend in BuckyStars who will make my drinks better for me and gives me social proof to other women in there.
There is nothing wrong with flirting, but you also have to know when to draw that line and not hurt people. For the longest time I could not look people in the eye. It is very difficult to look people in the face. Believe me I know. Jasmin and I spoke until about 1:30 in the morning about this very topic. It’s hard when you like someone but even more so when you don’t like someone.
The key here is not to think of anyone in a potential sexual aspect, rather everyone as a potential valuable asset. As PQ says open your heart up and fill it with love for everybody. Sometimes people will not understand you are not interested in them. Rather than avoid eye contact (you are really avoiding confrontation) look them in the eye, smile and talk about how your girlfriend always gives you apples too (in benny’s case with the woman).
Rave about how so in love with your girlfriend you are. Even if you don’t have an intimate relationship with a woman she can still be your girl-friend. Most of us guys have a girl who is a friend who we are secretly in love with. Some of us get lucky and get to actually fall in love with our true dream lady.
Here’s where it gets interesting; by meeting and talking to as many people as you can, even the ones you find least attractive you are becoming more and more attractive to everyone around you. Think about it this way. Does Brad Pitt not look the woman in the eye who chases and screams after him? Of course he does. Most women do not compare to Angelina Jolie, but all the same you still look them in the eye, because you never know who is the sister of Angelina. Oh and Natalie Portman still rocks, but not as rocking as you baby.
Owww, why’d you hit me? I said she wasn’t as rocking as you.
Graced by the SteveO himself…well, this thread turned out differently than I might have predicted..
I was kind of expecting that most people would agreed that there is nothing offensive in the ORIGINAL post
All those trouble are caused by me, I brought this thread back from a week ago
That’s what I was thinking (and I thought about Brad Pitt first, I just didn’t want to tie up bandwith… but now I will!). Supposse that some homely gal wants Brad Pitt’s autograph and she hits on him or flatters him. He returns the favor by ignoring her or demeaning her. Wouldn’t that make Brad Pitt look alot less gracious? An a-hole? That’s not the personna you want to project. It doesn’t matter how good the rest of you appears to be, nobody likes jerks. Brad Pitt would still be seem as powerful, but gradually he’s going to morph into the “spoiled rich kid”, sort of like Paris Hilton or a dozen other people famous for being famous. He’ll be mocked behind his back, and pretty soon “dethroned”.
There’s another famous celeb, Steve Martin, and he treats alot of people like dirt. I don’t think it’s coincidence that he doesn’t have as many fans. Granted, he wants to keep his personal life personal, but you can’t have it both ways- you can’t be famous in the public eye and not be welcomming of people at the same time. It’s not attractive.
This thread has become quite interesting. Most pheromone users will have to deal with the issue of unexpected or unwanted responses at some time.
This issue was explored in this old thread, originally titled “What do we owe the responders?”
It is also interesting to note that the tone of the forum changes over time, often in response to the personalities of the current crop of frequent posters.
I expect unwanted hits whenever I go out with the pheromones I just received. If I saw a crowded area with people that I do not wish to attract, I simply avoid the area. If I do attract someone’s attention, I will stick it out to the end and make his/her day a pleasant one.
Who knows? Maybe this person has connections with other people that you may be attracted to. Just a thought.
I agree with most people here. If you are being treated nice be nice. Anything can happen.