I’m about to grab MX103 as well so expect posts from me concerning it once I run it. 
Yes j1mmy I am waiting for MX105 to re-appear as well though I think it might not re-appear at all 
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Examine, sorry to hear of your car accident and best of luck with the recovery.
I have tried something similar to what you were using but like I said it was more like a combo of MX105, Alpha-Nol, and P74 (50 mcg). I have tried this combo a few times. Basically I don’t find it particularly sexual (even MX105 on its own I don’t find too ‘sexual’). But what I love about the MX105/Alpha-Nol/P74 combo is that it seems to position me around my peers (well people from 22-35) as like a really ‘fun social alpha guy’. It does what nothing else I’ve tried has done in that it gives me decent levels of respect and at the same time makes me more popular and keeps me reasonably approachable to guys/gals who aren’t confident (whereas with A314 or Androstenone they would just be too uncomfortable around me). That’s why I started this thread.
At the moment I think a ‘younger’ guy has 3 main options when going out with his friends:
- he can wear an A314-dominant mix (say 2-3 drops of A314 with other pheromones like Alpha-Nol, TAA, etc);
- he can wear some Androstenone in his mix; and
- he can try and go for a combo of the friendlier molecules and leave out or severely minimise the A314 and Androstenone (so he would wear pheromones like Alpha-Nol, TAA, P93, etc).
But as I will show there are problems with all of these three approaches that the MX105/Alpha-Nol/P74 combo can overcome for the most part…
Below are some posts summarising the problems with wearing anything but minimal doses A314 around peers in the younger (well lets say under 30) age groups. I am not saying that A314 shouldn’t be used by ‘younger guys’ - on the contrary it is a marvellous product in professional settings especially when communicating with ‘higher-end’ people and older people in general. Indeed 1 drop of A314 may add a little DHV signal to a mix. But IMHO it may not be such a good product to wear socially around a group of younger friends for example…
Does Androstenol affect men negatively? (Does Androstenol affect men negatively?)
Sigma (September 12, 2006):
“…Depends on how you look at it, and it really depends on what you’re going for.
On one end, Alpha Androstenol (Instant Openness – Ice Breaker Pheromone for Men - Alpha A314) tends to make people more open and receptive to you, thus making them more receptive to the positive effects of A314. This is also buffers against the distancing effect that A314 can often have.
On another note, Alpha Androstenol does detract from the mysterious inner-intensity of A314, by making you a little too up-beat, open, and easy-going, when used excessively.
I’m seeing great results with A314 and Instant Openness (Alpha Androstenol) based mixes currently. The synergy created by the two products projects a ‘socially alpha’ type of image, which is most beneficial in the types of interactions I’m in**. Mixes high in A314 and none create too much distance, and while it might create a strong alpha image in some aspects, the distance these products tend to create can keep you socially out of the loop - this is hardly an ‘alpha’ position to be in.**”
Hello I'm New - #6 by sigma (Hello I'm New - #6 by sigma)
Sigma (December 27, 2006):
“For the afformentioned mix, I usually apply 3 drops of A314 (A314 Classic Edition – Trust & Respect Pheromone for Men - Alpha A314) oil (when I still had that), 4 sprays shine, 4 sprays honesty.
But using that mix 5 days a week at work got rather costly after awhile, so I only use it when I’m meeting with clients, or will be socializing with a lot of professionals…luncheons and what-not. On days when I’ll be cramped up in my cubicle all day, I usually stick with A314 by itself and it works well enough. I get the much needed added respect around the office…much needed because I’m the youngest person in the office, while also lacking the degrees, designations, licenses, and experiencethat everyone else in the office has. I’ll be graduating with a degree in Finance in May, so a lot of that will come soon enough, but I honestly still feel a little overwhelmed trying to learn everything. From what I can tell about the effects of A314 in the office though, it seems that I appear more competent than I really am. Not to diss myself, but I’m very much in a learning stage…and given how heavily regulated the financial services industry is…I’ve got quite a lot to learn. I don’t have a problem with people viewing me as too young and inexperienced at all, rather they seem impressed that at my age I know so much, or that I’m doing what I’m doing. I don’t know how much of that to attribute to A314 without discrediting everything that I actually have done, but I’m sure A314 has a lot to do with that.
I like to add IS to the mix because of the sort of vibrance it contributes. It keeps things from being strictly serious in nature, and a little more inviting…I like my professional persona to be more upbeat and charismatic, but also in control, and professionally competent. I would add Instant Openness to the mix, but it can be excessively light-hearted for me. I tend to joke around a lot while wearing Alpha Androstenol, and while I like the effect it has a lot when I’m more casual and laid-back, it doesn’t translate as well in professional settings. At my age, I really have to keep my professional persona, and my casual persona separate.
I’ve paired A314 and Instant Honesty together a number of times in the past, mostly because I burn through IS bottles much more quickly than I will Instant Honesty and had no choice but to leave it out. I haven’t had any problems with appearing too old or intense while wearing it as a business mix…appearing ‘older’ only seems to work in my benefit. Instant Honesty seems to complement the effects of A314 very well, as it also has a trust building element to it. People also seem to grow comfortable around me very quickly while wearing Instant Honesty, which opens them up to the effects of A314 more quickly and promenently
**
when it comes to using pheromones in professional settings in general, I don’t think I’ve ever had an issue with appearing too old. This only really tends to occur if I wear a highly serious and ‘older’ type mix in casual settings. Again I try to keep my professional and casual persona’s separate, and the mixes I use are reflective of these two ‘modes’ of mine. It might be a congruency issue, but when I wear something as overbearingly serious as A314 in a more casual setting, it can put me out of the loop, and its not cool. For this reason I tend to refrain from using A314 outside of professional settings, unless off-set with a high dose of Instant Openness.**”
A314 mx 103 (A314 mx 103)
Examine (October 27, 2006):
“btw. IMHO, I dont think A314 (A314 Classic Edition – Trust & Respect Pheromone for Men - Alpha A314) is for younger folks. its much more of a professional product. that is the only reason I even got it–it took me awhile to figure out I couldnt wear it around peers my age.
usually i use it when im teaching a class of peers that are 30+.
i look like im 22, so i sort of use it to command respect- “i am here to teach you, no i am not your son’s friend””
A314 mx 103 (A314 mx 103)
Live4themusic(October 27, 2006):
“*Right! I guess it seems like everyone in our age group (well 30 and below) is noticing the same thing about A314 (A314 Classic Edition – Trust & Respect Pheromone for Men - Alpha A314). Now I know it has its uses for me, but for everyday wear I’m not going to be applying more than 1 drop anymore (especially since mutant is about 1.33 times as strong as regular A314 ) With only one drop I haven’t noticed any obvious effects, but that’s a good thing, because the effects I have noticed would not be good for social relations among my peers. So at one drop I believe my interactions are effected positively on a very subtle level. I feel like my peers take me more seriously, but not TOO seriously.
Now obviously its unfair to say that no one around our age should be using A314. In fact, I think it’s perfect for anyone interviewing or beginning at a job that’s perceived as higher-status or in an environment where most people are older, such as a young lawyer starting out at a big law firm. I could see A314 helping someone to move up the hierarchal ranks ahead of their time. I think it would be even especially useful for women trying to be taken seriously in a predominantly male setting.”*
Goin' to College - #10 by smn1234 (Goin' to College - #10 by smn1234)
Smn1234 (August 28, 2007):
“ya I remember using 2 drops of A314 (A314 Classic Edition – Trust & Respect Pheromone for Men - Alpha A314) with 2 sprays of ammo at a club once… WORST idea… people around me kept saying.. what’s that smell? smells like an old man…
age group: 21+ (supposedly)”
Then there is the option of wearing the friendly molecules on their own.
A classic friendly effect can be gotten from JVK’s Scent of Eros product (1 spray of Instant Gentleman added to 4 sprays of Instant Openness should give you a similar effect - the same approximate 4:1 Alpha-Nol to Rone ratio). Below are some posts on the Scent of Eros ‘lightweight effect’ that can happen for some people (only when it is NOT buffered by other things, of course, like A314 and/or Androstenone for example). To be fair some of the posts below highlight that one can make use of being ‘nice’ as well and I have included JVK’s response as well to be fair…
Rob’s posts at the end of this compilation alert us to the fact that this effect is quite prevalent across virtually all the friendly molecules. Lets read the following lest some guy turns into a ‘goofy smiling candyass’ by wearing friendly molecules on their own around his peers and not acting ‘manly’ enough. Of course if you are good at flirting then this might not be a bad strategy but for your average guy I think wearing friendly molecules on their own wouldn’t be the best option (especially considering the variety of pheromones/mixes we now have at our disposal courtesy of Androtics)…
***http://www.pherolibrary.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5823 (http://www.pherolibrary.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5823)
bjf (February 24, 2003):
" Scent of Eros – Too Nice?
**I wonder if some women are turned off with a guy with too much Androstenol…i.e. too nice, too wimpy, can walk all over him.
**
maybe i am wrong about it."
SonnyBlack (February 24, 2003):
“ive always wondered about this as well…I think girls see you as such (wimpy, weak, not able to protect them) when you have too much Androstenol (Instant Openness – Ice Breaker Pheromone for Men - Alpha A314) on. Ive worn Scent of Eros a couple of times and and I kinda noticed such reactions while doing so…or maybe it was just that im used to having naturally high levels of none and when I added Androstenol it sorta freaked me out…”
bjf (February 24, 2003):
"the only time i have ever worn more Androstenol then none i thought a bunch of guys behind me were considering robbing me and a girl basically felt "wht can u do for me, you couldn't take care of me" type-deal. Guys were nice, except for the guys who wanted to rob me
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. I am interested to see how women reacted to other guys with much higher Androstenol to none/Androsterone ratio"
Proteus (February 24, 2003):
"I tend to agree that with Scent of Eros you tend to be perceived as too nice - so especially when I hit the clubs if I use Scent of Eros I definitely use it with some -none, specifically JB#1.
But sometimes being perceived as " too nice " works great as you can move in on the ladies in kind of a stealth mode. Once I have her talking, which Scent of Eros is very good at doing, then I can use my skills to seduce her. If one approaches -Androstenol products from this perspective, you can in many ways be more successful with women than if you use -none products because they are already “comfortable” with you and if your seduction skills are good, then the rest is easy. I think of it this way - -none, when it works well, will have her ready to jump you without too much work, whereas -Androstenol may not induce this reaction, but from a percentage scale you can get to “talk” with a lot more women, and take it from there. So for the less skilled seductionists go with -none, but if you have skills, then I think -Androstenol products are much better for you. Just my two cents."
franki (February 24, 2003):
"…The only problem with Androstenol (Instant Openness – Ice Breaker Pheromone for Men - Alpha A314) alone, IMO, is that when you are already a nice guy yourself, and you are only wearing Androstenol, you are missing something. Personally I ALWAYS feel I am missing something when I don't put on the tiniest bit of none.
I really don't believe in the theory that too much Androstenol (on its own) makes one too nice…"
jvkohl (February 25, 2003):
“Some people may be forgetting that -Androstenol has been shown to effect hormone levels (luteinizing hormone:LH, and follicle stimulating hormone) in women. This effect is always beneficial in other mammals; it is the typical response to pheromones from the opposite sex. An increase in LH will be followed by an increase in testosterone, which is very effective with regard to increasing libido, in both men and women. Scent of Eros may be too nice, but it also provides a nice push in the right direction: towards increased interest in sex.”
http://www.pherolibrary.com/forum/showthread.php?p=183590#post183590
Shenandoah (April 27, 2006):
“…One does not want to over do the Scent of Eros. It could make you seem too friendly – that is a “push over,” a light weight, or a people pleaser…”
PheroBlog (http://pheroblog.blogspot.com/)
Futurist (January 7, 2006):
“…Scent of Eros – This has a pheromone formula that gives off social effects, such as chattyness. Wear too much of it and you will seem overly wimpy. A good product, but doesn’t serve as a sexual attractant as it claims to. However, if you are a clint east wood type guy, a biker type, a body builder, etc, then this will likely take away some of the intimidation you produce in women and make you more attractive…”
A314 is the best I've used but it's out of stock: when will it be back? - #21 by Rob (A314 is the best I've used but it's out of stock: when will it be back? - #21 by Rob)
Rob (September 26, 2006):
“NPA can generate negative effects… but you must take into account all pheremones do. The way I see it.. if androstenone (Turn Up the Heat – Sensual Pheromone Spray Cologne for Men - Alpha A314) gives an extra sex vibe, I’m sure I can put up with alittle bitchiness=) Then again things like too much -nols or comfort pheromones may have a happy or relaxing vibe.. yet at the same time they can also give a “weakness” and "my Psy hurts" vibe when used in excess. **Well I should know, because I like to OD when I first get any new pheremone.”
Does Androstenol affect men negatively? (Does Androstenol affect men negatively?)
Rob (September 26, 2006):
“Any guy should not wear too much laughing feel good pheremones like Androstonel or TAA (Molecule A – Carefree Youthful Uplifting Pheromone - Pheromone Labs) (IS). It’ll just end up turning you into some goofy smiling candyass. It may make you in some instances the life of the party, but really.. there is nothing sexy about a clown.”
Yes below is more evidence of the ‘lightweight’ effect that unbuffered ‘friendly pheromones’ can bring along with them…
love scent vs androtics? a open discussion - #34 by alpha314 (love scent vs androtics? a open discussion - #34 by alpha314)
alpha314 (August 27, 2007):
“…Yes RE Scent of Eros different courses for different horses i say it is good stuff, and an abundance can give a little bit of a wimpy attitude/perception derpending on ones dress, bio-rythms, dynamics and mood at the time of impact, also taking into consideration the personalitys of those whome may be influenced by its sublime properties…”
http://smellscent.blogspot.com/
nbully79 (August 1, 2007):
“Day report 08/01/07: 2 drops WAGG
Today applied 2 drops WAGG from the 4 ml bottle with dropper and covered with Geir.
Asian girl in lab was cold and little bitchy. It’s very typical behavior from her whenever I wear Wagg. Gradually she warmed up but I think it does give some low status male vibe. Hey atleast its consistent!”
nbully79 (August 30, 2007):
“…V-5 doesn’t seem to bring the disrespectful reactions like WAGG does.”
nbully79 (February 17, 2008):
“…I am very surprised how WAGG lowers you on the social ladder a few notches and sometimes also SOE…”
Jonno101 (Feburary 17, 2008):
“I hear what you’re saying about SOE (haven’t tried WAGG)moving you down the social ladder.
I felt the same so ditched SOE as soon as my 1st Androtics order came in.
It wasn’t creating any attraction, IOIs just made me seem more insignificant. Almost invisible to people who’ve known me as well.
Nice reports. Keep em coming. I haven’t come across Athena b4)”
nbully79 (March 4, 2008):
“…Labmate didn’t abreact too badly to either Wagg or TE, she did start to be a little difficult on first exposure but soon became nicer. She has a huge problem whenever I wear Wagg or high doses of TE without A314. No over the top reactions yet but it’s a nice enhancement…”
More evidence is posted below of the problem of too many ‘friendly’ pheromones (and an intimidation-reducing agent in the case of TAK).
I am not posting this to rubbish any products or any experts/manufacturers (like JVK or Androtics). Simply showing what is a common problem in pheromone use which has not been talked about much and not much has been done to address it. Indeed that is the whole reason why I created this thread and the idea of fuzing MX105 and P74 - the philosophy of creating a pheromone signature which is likeable but at the same time without losing respect from others…
Instant Jerk layered over a full workday combo at dinner: a -none overdose? - #8 by PheroQuirk (Instant Jerk layered over a full workday combo at dinner: a -none overdose? - #8 by PheroQuirk)
PheroQuirk (March 11, 2006):
“…TAK I picked deliberately as a buffer and I think it did its job well. I don’t think too much TAK (https://pheromonelabs.com/) is the right thing for a party environment (perhaps okay for a small dinner and if you need to calm somebody down) but 50 mcg seemed about right, or at least not too high…”
Instant Jerk layered over a full workday combo at dinner: a -none overdose? - #11 by PheroQuirk (Instant Jerk layered over a full workday combo at dinner: a -none overdose? - #11 by PheroQuirk)
PheroQuirk (March 11, 2006):
“…Have yet to verify through experimentation. But sometimes you want people to be intimidated and thrilled by you, dammnit. I fear TAK (https://pheromonelabs.com/) might take that away…”
https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-club-pheromone/121/17
PheroQuirk (March 23, 2006):
“…I find too much TAK (https://pheromonelabs.com/) calms things down too much if meeting new people…”
[deleted links posted from A314 insiders forum]
thanks alot for the wishes visionary. keep up the great data.
i shall come back and use some of them and report back.
Visionary - thanks for such comprehensive posts.
I’m going to revise this week’s xperiments to include the bit of P74 I have left 
A314 is my standard work mix so I’ll add P74 to that along with TAA (my Shine needs replenshing and won’t get my new delivery for a couple of days).
If 4 sprays is too much 4 work will lower the dosage.
Will report back on the results - this could be a keeper (for an office full of younger women.
Below we have more posts on the dangers of excessive comfort/social pheromones when left unbuffered by something strong. P101, Estratetraenol (EST), and WAGG are** shown as examples of the problem. **
I believe the ‘next generation’ of social/comfort pheromone products will not be just about creating comfort and friendliness but about doing those things IN ADDITION TO giving off vibe of high status/dominance, being respected and in control. That is the idea behind combining two products like MX105 and P74 (with added Alpha-Androstenol)…
Starting to test P84, P94 and P101: how each compares to alpha-nol, TAA and A314 (Starting to test P84, P94 and P101: how each compares to alpha-nol, TAA and A314)
examine (March 14, 2007):
“…[P101] does smell different [to TAA]. i meant the vibe [is similar to that of TAA]. it sorta has a happy vibe, shiny vibe–but its not too giggly like alpha Androstenol. i noticed at the bar, the waitress whom is an alpha female, never actually got into a conversation with me. just “hey you, whats up” this time..she gave me a drink, then we chatted, then, i asked if she had a custom drink..she made it…i went back to playing pool. then she came over to ask me about the drink. i said something like “whos at the bar?” she replied, “ah its dead and im bored”
i also asked her if she wanted to play, which she agreed, but then she had customers.
btw. i wore P84 2-3 hours prior. i noticed P84 stuck around for awhile.
the spray (101) does not command respect, and it creates a very very friendly vibe to others. i can see how 101 would be great for lonewolves, however, authority figures (boss) would see you as weak. i got picked on by my boss. and i mean she really drilled me. im usually very sharp tongue and defensive, but i just kept silent…which felt a bit emotional. that is very unlike me.”
Overdue: EST, MEO-EST, and Further P83+P74+P79 testing. (Overdue: EST, MEO-EST, and Further P83+P74+P79 testing.)
Eslite119 (March 2008):
“…EST (https://phera.com/):
In general, I believe EST tends to create that protect vibe. In other words, people exposed to EST get a sense that they need to “protect” the wearer of this pheromone. This tends to create a different type of respect (in contrast to Androsterone), where people exposed to it let you “have it your way.” However, this type of vibe or the protect vibe is not always good IMHO as it leads some people to undermine you in the process. I’m sure I confused some readers at this point, so let me give you my most recent example.
EST at Poker night:
Dosage: 4 sprays of EST (200mcg) all applied to hair. Applied 3 hours before the event.
Last weekend, I was to get together with some people that I’ve known since high school. Haven’t seen them since then, but we sort of had a reunion. I’ve worn pheros couple times to Poker games, and some of the pheros used were P74 and >A314. By no means I used pheros to swindle money from others, but just happened to had the old applications on and ran into a poker game by coincidence. This time was different. I applied EST mainly to test it out to see what happens and also to confirm some of my theories on this phero.
At the table, there were some people that I was not familiar with and we had 10 total; 4 females and 6 males including myself. Third hand, flipped my card and I saw pocket kings. Good so far. 7 out of 10 folded and the flop reveals 2 kings and 1 Jack. At this point I know I won, so I observe the other two players and see their reactions. One folds and other one stays and bets. I raise and he calls. Turn reveals a card, but I really don’t remember what it was (does it matter?). My opponent, who had more chips than I, calls whatever I had left, so I call. Crowd goes wild after seeing my cards, and I sweep the table.
A female player next to me, doesn’t compliment me, but rather teaches me as to how to play poker (you should’ve done this, that, blah blah blah). I kinda ignore her. On the 7th or the 8th hand (sorry can’t remember), I get a full house on the river and once again I was up against only one player (person I know well). This opponent was telling me to fold rather than enticing me to go all in. He’s saying that he didn’t want me to lose money and so forth, but he was expressing it in a way that made me believe that he meant it. Eventually he goes all in and I call. He had 3 of a kind and I sweep the table again.
At this point I was the chip leader. A female player, again, teaches me as to how I should play poker. This time I got annoyed and some people on the table caught on. The table split into two when debating. One part was saying, “leave _____ alone he’s trying to have a good time,” while the rest was saying, “I don’t want ____ to lose money.” Ummmm excuse me? A lot went through my mind and ultimately ruined my mood to continue on. I won more hands afterwards, but I was thrown off course and just couldn’t concentrate. After the little debate, I got a sense that I really didn’t belong there; people seemed to act as if they were playing amongst 9 adults and 1 high school student. Maybe I’m over analyzing, but I didn’t like the vibe I got. But then again the other 9 played amongst themselves before and this was my first time joining their group.
I wanted to quit, but since this was a first time playing with this crowd, I decided not to cash out my winnings. I steadily and purposefully (believe it or not) lost the subsequent hands.
Very different experience compared to my previous poker games. When wearing P74 and especially >A314, I got the respect. People took me seriously and characterized me as a disciplined player. Once again, EST tends to create that “protect” vibe. I think the female player next to me was giving me advices, regardless of my winnings, strictly out of concern as did some other players. However, she didn’t seem to realize that she was undermining me in the process. When she was commenting as to “should you be doing this? or that?” she was completely forgetting the fact that 1) it was my money that was at risk and 2) I can make decisions of my own. It was as if the entire table was like mommy and daddy trying to tell the kid how to spend his allowance.
Conclusion: EST is not the type of phero that I’m looking for. However, I think female users will benefit much more if they use it.”
Worst product you have ever used - #4 by Rob (Worst product you have ever used - #4 by Rob)
Rob (June 22, 2006):
“…The absolute worst I’ve tried was WAGG!!! That has to be some sort of wimp pheremone or something. I may as well just sit there and “wagg my butt” like some loser, because that is exactly the type of hits it subconsciously gives…”
Lone Wolves/CEE : IS/m + WAGG - #5 by Rob (Lone Wolves/CEE : IS/m + WAGG - #5 by Rob)
Rob (July 6, 2006):
“WAGG for some reason seems to be a wussy pheromone. I tried it on certain people and I noticed that girls were prone to treating you like a “nice guy” and you were more of a target for bully’s.”
Asians and mones (Asians and mones)
sigma (April 14, 2006):
“What’s up pilot,
Asians typically benefit from wearing more none. I usually wear twice as much none as people typically wear. I haven’t felt the need to wear any more than 3 drops (though I usually wear 2) of A314 (A314 Classic Edition – Trust & Respect Pheromone for Men - Alpha A314), so I don’t think there’s too much variability on ethnicity as far as A314. One thing I have noticed, however, is that I VERY easily stumble into the negative reactions with the softer products. I’m still famiarizing myself with the products here so I couldn’t offer much in regards to what’s used here, but I’ve had experiences with Androstadienone and WAGG where people around me grew highly condescending.
Nowadays I usually use these products in highly intimate or personal situations only, or when off-set with a none heavy product.”
Can women use Instant Female Magic? Good for mood, but careful around men - #58 by sigma (Can women use Instant Female Magic? Good for mood, but careful around men - #58 by sigma)
sigma (June 11, 2006):
“…I noticed the same with WAGG, so I eventually ditched it. I had high hopes when I got WAGG based on the feedback that people gave it on LS, but in my case it had a pretty profound anti-sexual effect…to the extent of creating condescension from others. This all went away with low doses of WAGG, however at those doses I saw no beneficial effects either…”
Help/Advice A314/IS - #107 by sigma (Help/Advice A314/IS - #107 by sigma)
sigma (August 22, 2006):
“…In my case WAGG created nothing but negative effects, however the experience taught me to lay low with the comfort pheromones (Help/Advice A314/IS), and to focus more on social and aggressive pheromones…”
What pheromones do WAGG contain? - #4 by sigma (What pheromones do WAGG contain? - #4 by sigma)
sigma (May 14, 2007):
“**WAGG is definitely a product that seems to soften a person’s image…for better or for worse. It has actually elicited some condescension in people in my case…**this is easily tempered with something more aggressive, but it became pointless for me to ever use it, as there were no real beneficial effects for me…only negative ones that I needed to mitigate with other pheromones (What pheromones do WAGG contain?). I think the condescension came with mixes that incorporated a lot of androstadienone…its been a while since I’ve used it…”
Bubblebob has been using MX105 to anchor social mixes as suggested by this thread. He seems to really like the effects of the lighter, less serious version of A314 but which retains the ‘control’ aspect as well as some of the self-confidence enhancing effects of A314…
Self-effects of -none vs. -rone (Self-effects of -none vs. -rone)
bubblebob (April 11, 2008):
“ Self-effects of -none vs. -Androsterone
Heyho guys,
I’ve been playing around with my bottle of MX105 (https://pheromonelabs.com/) for some time now. It’s great stuff and definitely gives a good deal of attention. And - which is at least equally important for me - it has very good self-effects. I feel content, happy and self-confident whenever wearing MX105. I have experienced these self-effects when wearing Ammo, too - but there is one big difference, which I noticed only this week. MX105 (and MX103) seems to induce some kind of ‘romantic’ feelings whenever I see a girl who I am interested in. While wearing Ammo (AMMO – Sexual Attraction Pheromone Cologne For Men - Alpha A314), I’m much more in an animalistic mood - meaning I’d want to do her right here, right now. I think that’s kinda interesting, because -Androsterone is always thought of as the pheromone which let’s you been seen as the gentleman - someone who could care for you, someone you’re safe around - while -none is said to have an agressive sexual side. It seems this is not only reflected to the target, but the wearer’s thoughts kinda morph into the -Androsterone or -none world.
One more thing, but I’m not 100% sure about it: Wearing -Androsterone-heavy products seems to change the age-range of my targets. While going without pheromones or wearing Ammo, my preferred range of age reaches from early to late 20s, while wearing MX105 it seems my interest in women goes up to a higher age, such as mid- to late 30s.
Anyone else seen these effects of -Androsterone based products? I’ve read a lot from people who think wearing -none makes them a little more aggressive, but haven’t read much about the romantic, gentleman-like self-effect of -Androsterone.
It seems the pheromones that one is wearing influences his very own thoughts and feelings much more than I ever thought (or I’m just getting older )…
bb”
MX103 Here, let me just stand on this pedestal and look great - #14 by bubblebob (MX103 Here, let me just stand on this pedestal and look great - #14 by bubblebob)
bubblebob (April 21, 2008):
“Well, it’s hard for me to decide whether I like MX103 (https://pheromonelabs.com/) or MX105 more. 103 seems to give me stronger self-effects, but it kinda makes me a little more introverted (which I already am, so that effect does not please too much ). 105 on the other hand seems a good deal brighter, although with less self effects.
Hmm, overall MX105 suits my needs better as it gives confidence (although not as much a 103), but is overall lighter. So, 105 gets my vote. AND, my bottle of 105 doesn’t stink, which is quite an advantage!
BTW, great to see you around here! You’re are a seldom guest and we miss you (well, I do at least )!”
My super duper feel good mix (My super duper feel good mix)
bubblebob (April 27, 2008):
“ My super duper feel good mix
I guess I’ve been a little lazy lately barely writing any reports about my phero usage. So it’s time to tell a little about the combo I’ve been using lately. It consists of:
2 sprays MX105 (https://pheromonelabs.com/)
2 sprays P74 (Experimental Pheromone P74 - Alpha A314) @ 25mcg (so 50 mcg overall)
2 sprays Come Talk To Me Mix 2
2 - 3 sprays Instant Shine
covered by 2 sprays of Black Code
(all from the big 30-ml-bottles)
There’s one thread by Visionary suggesting something like this (without the IS though), packed with tons of reviews by different users about the components of the mix:
‘Younger man’s A314’ fuzed with the ‘cool guy vibe’: combining MX105 with P74 ('Younger man's A314' fuzed with the 'cool guy vibe': combining MX105 with P74)
I’ve tested this combo for the last 10 days or so and it’s the best one in terms of self effects that I have used so far. It gives me happiness throughout the day combined with a nice boost in confidence. I’m relaxed all the time and see the world much more positive.
Now in terms of effects on other people:
- all people around me are really friendly towards me
- on my way to work in the morning I had several women sitting next to me in the subway behave very interested - you know, all the things women do to catch a men’s attention (hair twirling, glancing at me etc). One of them even could not stop moving around - don’t know if I made her a little nervous or if she just tried really hard to catch my interest.
- my boss at work - a cutie almost 40 years old, but looking a lot younger - takes every opportunity to come near me and smiles big at me all the time. Actually I fear that she’s got some thoughts in mind that exceed the normal boss-employee relation
- I’ve seen a girl that I’m interested in twice while wearing this mix. I didn’t notice a big change in her behaviour when seeing her (we like each other a lot, but are only friends), but we had some very… errmm… suggestive email talks over the last days which might show a change in the way she thinks about me (this suggests quite good after-effects of the mix). Friday was a little strange - normally it took no more than 5 to 10 minutes until I got an answer from her. But on friday I wrote one invitation suggesting watching a movie in the cinema next week and the only answer this day took 4 hours to come in and only consisted of ‘sounds good…’. hmm, maybe she’s just checking my reaction - you know, the well-known ‘testing’ thing - and I have to admit that it would have pissed me off a little before, but wearing that mix I somehow found it funny. She’s made sure to contact me every single day last week (except friday) and invited me twice to come over and have lunch together - a biig change since it’s been very quiet around us over the last months. Unfortunately she’s got a boyfriend. Well, we’ll see how that ends…
I’m sure it’s not only the effects this mix has on the people around me, but to a certain (maybe even higher) degree the change in me and my behaviour that it somehow implies.
Oh yeah, one more thing: I’m currently trying to shed off a pound or two. Unfortunately I’m something like a comfort eater (?) - I’m tending to stuff myself with ice cream and other not too healthy foods to feel good, especially if I’m feeling down and depressed. Well, since I wear this combo my hunger for sweets is completely gone and my appetite has decreased substantially. I guess it’s because I’m feeling great all the time and simply don’t have the need for comfort-food…
I’m going to wear this combo a lot more often in the future - so if I happen to find some more benefits I’ll update this post…”
Instant Extreme Niceness (Instant Extreme Niceness)
bubblebob (May 13, 2008):
“It’s quite similar to my favourite social mix - only that I don’t use Instant Gentleman and replace the A314 (A314 Classic Edition – Trust & Respect Pheromone for Men - Alpha A314) with 2 sprays MX105. Works well everytime…”
Recreating MX203 - sort of... (Recreating MX203 - sort of...)
bubblebob (June 1, 2008):
“ Recreating MX203 - sort of…
I was invited to a little party last night - a friend of mine gave a belated birthday party. Seeing that another friend of mine who was there always reacted very irritated towards me when wearing any androstenone (Turn Up the Heat – Sensual Pheromone Spray Cologne for Men - Alpha A314) products (22, she always avoids all eye contact) I decided to keep it to the socials. I practically applied what is suspected MX203 consists of in some free ratio: **P93 (2 sprays @ 15 mcg), 3 Instant Openness for the Androstenol and ISx2 as well as a spray of TAA@50 mcg. I added a spray of Instant Honesty x4 on top and couldn’t resist adding a little masculinity factor by adding one MX105 as something like the base. **The very first thing that I noticed was that it seemed to dial up my confidence - I felt as if I just bathed in A314 or MX103. It was my first time trying P93 in a mix and I was not expecting this! Being used to wearing the other molecules and mixes, this effect definitely seems to come from P93 - or maybe it amplified the effect of MX105 (which is normally nowhere that strong).
As on effects from the others: On my way to the party I had quite a lot of extended eye contact with different people - one very hot girl in the tram gave lots of IOIs (stupid me didn’t act on it…) and strange enough one man (might have been gay) was looking at me all the way to my station…
The party itself was okay, nothing so much out of the ordinary - people were chatty and cheery as usual…
I guess I should give P93 a try more often and see if I can replicate the results - the first trial seems to be promising!”
If you could only have 3... (If you could only have 3...)
bubblebob (June 2008):
“ Re: If you could only have 3…
In no particular order:
MX105 (https://pheromonelabs.com/) (seems to fit me better than >A314)
Instant Shine (Instant Shine Spray — Mood Enhancing Pheromone For Men - Alpha A314) (makes me feel good)
Instant Honesty (comfort and connection)
(Ammo) << just couldn’t leave it out… ”
MXs not becoming consumer products and other frustrations... (MXs not becoming consumer products and other frustrations...)
bubblebob (June 2008):
“…A314 (A314 Classic Edition – Trust & Respect Pheromone for Men - Alpha A314) spray version: I think a spray version of A314 in the consumer section would be great! It’s faster acting, more pronounced hits than the oil form. I’d actually vote for some less serious version like MX105…”
More posts on the problems with wearing too much A314 in younger, casual settings (absolutely awesome product when hanging out with older executive types though and generally in the workplace/business dealings)…
social area and sensitivity (social area and sensitivity)
toilofday (January 16, 2007):
“ social area and sensitivity
Ok so i’m wearing 2.5 drops of **A314 (A314 Classic Edition – Trust & Respect Pheromone for Men - Alpha A314), 2 sprays of mx209 (https://pheromonelabs.com/) (androstenol and ****taa (Molecule A – Carefree Youthful Uplifting Pheromone - Pheromone Labs)), and 1 spray of shine.
I swear that everybody i’ve talk to today on campus is realy intimidated by me. Almost to much as there is this cute little brunette I want to talk to in my next class.
is the A314 supposed to be that effective at 2.5 drops? I normaly use 1 drop and see little results. Somtimes with 2 I get a little, but holly crap. I asked this guy at a computer if anybody was using the one I wanted to sit down to because it was still logged in. He could barely respond. On top of that there is girl in one of my other classes that I had a bad potential dating experience with and I don’t realy care to know her anymore, but i’m still friendly and nice and act like i’m her friend. She was very put off, where she normaly talks to me for a couple minutes before and after class (she sat right beside me) there was a casual hello and what have you been up to conversation, but then she only looked at me one time after that until we parted ways which was a simple i’ll see you around, and an nervouse ok from her. VERY unusual. this is ther first time i’ve been around her with phero’s though.”
social area and sensitivity (social area and sensitivity)
sigma (January 16, 2007):
“Toilofday, you and I are about the same age. Your situation today is dead-on what I see when I see when I wear too much A314 (A314 Classic Edition – Trust & Respect Pheromone for Men - Alpha A314) in casual, younger settings. A314 (A314 Classic Edition – Trust & Respect Pheromone for Men - Alpha A314) can definately have an indifferent or awkward effect when used by younger people in the wrong context. It amy be an issue of mis-congruence, or simply an overbearingly serious/dominant/authoritative in an otherwise laid back setting. It can make you feel out of place.”
social area and sensitivity (social area and sensitivity)
toilofday (January 16, 2007):
“…Alright then, thanks for the confirmation. Pherhaps A314 (A314 Classic Edition – Trust & Respect Pheromone for Men - Alpha A314) is better used in the older crowds…”