tacitus (January 4, 2006):
“It matters HOW you are paying attention
good old brain isn’t the simple aspic they make it out to be, visual and auditory processing systems are complex, sophisticated, multilayered things… TAF may have an evolutionary reason for kicking in at a precise moment in the mating sequence, say when you want to study the object of your affections exceedingly closely for genetic value.. the brain like to be conservative, it hates wasting computational power on familiar background features, so it labels most things same old shit to be manouvered around and not thought about to hard.”
“…There does actually seem to be a period in the mating process which may be similar to the sparingly.You really do not want people to be super focus everyday and get used to it one day.”
Just as well as I’m going to use it on a date (yes it’s the same last person who said I’m a friend.. let’s see if gets me out of friends zone).. she’s supposed to be ovulating these days so I’ll see if the -none affects here more than usual..
1 spray Turn Up the Heat on belly
10mcg TAF (2 x 2.5mcg sprays)
10mcg P96 to neck
1 spray IS to neck
1 spray Turn Up the Heat on wrist, rubbed with other wrist,left to dry for 30mins
cover cologne 1 spray Joop Jump! On every wrist, rubbed too
Was a friend and still am… I’m concluding that if attraction isn’t there no pheromix will make a difference… Pheros can enhance existing attraction.
The day after I went to have a pizza at a nice cafe with friends..
The waitress was french, she was really angry with me, wanted to know what we would order straight away, no chance to read the menu, she dropped the salt/pepper, was really cranky…
With other tables she was behaving normally..
I guess it was the -none left over from the day before and she probably had her period so got very irritated…
And some more on TAF from the main man, MHarris himself (who has been conpicuously absent from the forum for the last 6 months - I wonder what he is up to?)…
MHarris (December 17, 2005):
"…That said, I’ll try to be as vague as possible, but still give some useful suggestions.
Try getting into a “deep” conversation with TAF, or going on a walk with someone, and seeing what kinds of details you notice.
Also notice how “clear” (nor not) your perceptions are.
I’m wondering, when you were looking for b12 with less fillers, how clear the details were to both of you… and if your sense of time shifted (time passing faster or slower than your normal sense of “clock time”).
So far, so weird with TAF. I have a good deal of data on it, and some interesting personal experiences.
One tester (who had no idea what pheromones were) did get what seems to be almost traditional “hits” with it when mixed into a normal cologne, but otherwise, most people report nothing like what you’d find from a typical pheromone. It makes me question what mother nature has up her sleeve.
For all “practical” (meaning simple) purposes, I’ve found it best used alone for longer and sensory rich shared experiences (a long walk with a friend or lover)… or, in mixes, best used with an emotive driver. Something else to take the wheel and lead in terms of what is communicated (A314 for masculinity and leadership, -none for raw muscularity, -Alpha Androstenol for giddiness, etc), with TAF modifying the experience of the event.
This isn’t what I’d recommend for most molecules, but: Maybe your next test could involve a pheromone you’re very familiar, used along WITH TAF. Then note the differences."
MHarris (January 4, 2006):
"…To me, the awareness thing is very odd. As much as I hate leading, TAF is just too weird not to talk about a little… (also, I’m going to talk mostly about subjective effects on ME, whereas other people who’ve given me feedback have given me effects on others)
When I go on walks with 50mcg TAF, I notice myself picking up details I’ve never noticed before. I walked down the same street I’ve been on tens of times, maybe over a hundred. I notice little shops and details of shops I never noticed before.
At the same time, I did notice a sort of tunnel vision… it was sort of like “zooming in” mentally.
Maybe it’s functioning at a higher level entirely… being able to simultaneously take in more, yet use that same expanded awareness/attention on anything we decide to focus on.
I, too, find myself lingering with TAF. Everything is just so much more interesting.
I hate, really despite saying this, but it’s almost like getting sort of weird X-Men like ability.
Again, why nature has a pheromonal molecule like this, is beyond me.
In a practical sense, I think if you stick around someone else long enough for the TAF to affect them, too, then they could very well discover charming facets of you they’d never have discovered before.
Could be a good fall in love (or lust) pheromone for that aspect (“you are SO fascinating!”). Could also be useful for revitalizing relationships (“I never noticed this about you before… but, wow, it’s like I’m getting to know you for the first time… there’s so much more to discover about you”).
I think it stops premature closure from the reticular activiating system in the brain, and, thus makes you more childlike."
MHarris (January 8, 2006):
"…You honed in on the subtleties of TAF quickly! I don’t know if I’ve covered this publicly yet or not, but it’s actually a key ingredient added to many our products. It’s there in what may seem like small amounts, but it makes them burn a little brighter.
While large amounts of TAF are insane, even nanogram amounts in a phero dose can change a mix. It’s a highly active intensifer.
TAF is also an excellent modifier when you want to bring out the character of a single pheromone, or discover new nuances of one you supposedly know well…"
Funny but yesterday I was listening to this podcast which mentioned time distortion during a date too lol..
they said if time flies, you get the message that you must be enjoying yourself… so with TAF you can give this message…
Thanks Mr. Capone nice Avatar you gangster!
The time flies when you are having fun thing is true indeed Phoenix. I guess P79 is another one which seems to distort time. And it seems that is not the only thing (aside from helping to do the chores ) that P79 and TAF have in common. They are both ‘intensifiers’ in their own respective ways. **TAF is a potent intensifier. **Both MHarris and tacitus definitely use/used TAF for intensifying the effects of other pheromones (see below)…
Sex-mix adventures: diluting TAF way down in an A314 and androstadienone party mix
MHarris (January 8, 2006):
"…You honed in on the subtleties of TAF quickly! I don’t know if I’ve covered this publicly yet or not, but it’s actually a key ingredient added to many our products. It’s there in what may seem like small amounts, but it makes them burn a little brighter.
While large amounts of TAF are insane, even nanogram amounts in a phero dose can change a mix. It’s a highly active intensifer.
TAF is also an excellent modifier when you want to bring out the character of a single pheromone, or discover new nuances of one you supposedly know well…"
tacitus (February 26, 2006):
"
I have ! I have !
didn’t accomplish much outside of the norm… I think Jasmin has particularly strong responses to dopamine. Instead of being sexual, TAF makes me too intellectual, it is a “snap out of it” phero. Minute doses of TAF do improve other phero mixes… it’s the monosodium glutamate, what is that flavor additive I have in my kitchen ? Accent flavor enhancer, you put it in soup and gravy for a bigger meatier taste… TAF is like that."
tacitus (March 5, 2006):
“…Hmmmmm… definitely an autonomic response… it might be a small dose as catalyst pheromone, like TAF works for me… add in a speck of it to another mix and you have attentiveness, engagement… too much and you feel neurotic.”
tacitus (January 13, 2007):
"
Let’s visit the Orgasmotron !
one simple observation… a high empathy/connectivity/rapport mix will let you so massivley dump in the hot male pheromones that you could never get away with…
My “acceptance mix” is now a combination of Alpha Androstenol, estratatraenol, P74, P86, and alpha-Androsterone
To which I may add in whatever ( TAF really shoots this business up another 3 notches BTW… I finally got the erotic power of TAF… dagnooshus boy… that’s liquid sin !)… one I have that aura of safety and connection in place, the heat can turn up to glowing orange hot…"
tacitus (January 14, 2007):
“…On the male sexuous side of the equation, I think this round was the justly praised P83, P91, P93 ramped up with TAF… I beleive these were 50 mu each… so the whole kit probably came in at around 400 mu altogether… which by my standards is a nice, middle of the road, managable dose…”
tacitus (February 1, 2007):
“…TAF is very much a sensory enhancer…”
I had not read that Mharris post saying they use TAF traces in many line products, very interesting… what pheros do you think would be enhanced by TAF?
I am not sure (maybe others can chime in) but I do think TAF is in the Liquid Sunshine mixes MX138 and MX140 and possibly MX177 as one of the three ‘oddball’ pheromones making up the mix. MX138 and MX140 do make me focus on little things about a woman/women which makes them seem more exciting (and vice versa), similar to how TAF was described by MHarris. These two mixes have a reputation of being the ‘erotic’ mixes of the Liquid Sunshine series. They probably contain some Alpha-Androstenol and TAA amongst other things… As to MX177, users like Jasmin, Gone with the Wind, and PheroQuirk have mentioned overt displays from women (like butt presentations). Tisha guessed that some TAF, P79 and/or Androsterone could be in MX177…
Now there here are some potential ‘erotic’ reaction posts on the combination of TAF and Methoxyestratetraenone (colloquially known as Meo-Est or MOET). Apparently these two were a great combo for cleaning the house, sorting, doing chores but there have been a few ‘sexier’ reactions reported as well. Obviously the power of suggestion could be involved in some user reports below but then again it is not the first time TAF has been largely involved in a mix giving somewhat ‘erotic’ reactions…
[Link broken no longer found]
Jasmin (January 6, 2006):
In her blog post, Jasmin applied:
Hours upon hours later, she applied another 50 mcg shot of MEO-EST
And then before she went out, 20 mcg each of TAL and Beta-Androstenol.
Then the blog entry continues: "We come home, watchin’ the boob toob, and decide to fart around with high dose ‘pheromone applications again. It’s three of us, me, my SO, and my friend sitting like ducks on the couch together. I think something like 75 mcg of TAF was applied to S (the friend), and J (the SO) applied something liek 2 sprays Shine to 1 spray Openness.
As a bystander of the TAFadose I think I was feelign a little spacey and dartfocused, but that’s not nearly as interesting as…
Well, I briefly mentioned yesterday I had a deep gutteral feeling, like my entire viscera (my guts!) was pounding. The blood surging through the heart and lungs, stomach turning, throat swelling kind of gutteral feeling. Had it again, today. Listen up, horndogs, this might be of use to you. I was so blindingly aroused and squirming and in heat that I’d walk somewhere crooked like an S-curve ’cause I’d rather be on all fours. That gutteral feeling was like an evolution of the one yesterday,and it made me feel like swallowing up any man in my radius. I seriously had to evacuate to the other room; my cheeks were already flush with blood and everything…"
Fabulous date over drinks & snacks. Girls next door staring and fascinated (my date had the sensation we were being talked about). Talk. Hold hands, snog, “I want to you". “I am so wet”. Not particularly in character for this girl. I think the TAF+MOET contributed to the way she articulated this as I have never before received such a strong reaction to any combination of the other components. (Come to think of it, I don’t think I have had such a blatant response since I was 21). We don’t as we both need to be somewhere else early tomorrow, but it would have been possible. Hit!”
tacitus (January 8, 2006):
“…Did note with TAF +methoxy-est I did get a spontaneous erection, although my brain was thinking flu misery and a powerful need to sleep…”
tacitus (January 10, 2006):
“…I do not experience any of the pure eroto-romantic mental rearrangement with MEO-EST, taken alone is feels like it is calmative and centering (in this one male sample), however, with TAF, when I added it to a standard high dose sexmix (something you would intentionally apply about 5 minutes before having sex with the idea of having really good sex) it seemed distinctly erotic… MEO-EST must be an accessory pheromone that combines with others to trigger something significant.”
I’m not sure but this combo (1 spray each) seems to give me erections, more than the usual, for the past few days I’ve been using them. Maybe I’m thinking too much lately…"**
Homura83 (October 9, 2006):
“Meo-est and TAF work best on women you’ve just known,during that period where they would put more focus on you,and having these 2 pheromones would put them into hyperfocus mode.Try your VERY BEST to do everything right at that time and they’ll be impressed for a long time.After the first few meeting or so,you can totally remove Meo-est and TAF from the mix.I don’t want them to by hyperfocused everytime and that stresses me out.They’ll also be immuned to them.To prevent the usual games from getting accustomed to my mix I’ll also vary their doses sigmodially,sometimes low sometimes high,sometimes totally moneless.As the great Tacitus once mentioned,if a women thinks you were ok yesterday(with pheromones),and you are ok today(moneless),you should be AOK with her tomorrow and so on…”
Homura83 (October 10, 2006):
“…Btw do use Meo-est and TAF sparingly.You really do not want people to be super focus everyday and get used to it one day…”
Steve Taylor has just been on BBC World talking about his book about the perception of time… “Making Time”..
I guess this book might be a good read if there is anything we can apply to the use of TAF..
He mentioned that doing new things can make time seem to flow more slowly..
seems connected to TAF which makes you seem ‘new’ to others..
And there’s more on TAF from some of the stars of this forum, past and present… I really would like to hear more from TaoistBiker on this forum, that guy seems to have some cool insights…
Jasmin (March 24, 2006):
"…TAF is an extreme intensifier. Kind of dangerous when I’m already feeling upset, because it will take that feeling over the top. If I’m feeling methodical or focused in any way, it will amplify it so high that I’ll be blown away like Marty McFly in the opening sequence of Back to the Future.
…"
TaoistBiker (June 28, 2006):
“…Single sample: With TAF the feeling that I get is “bonded”: with the experience, emotion, person - that definitely engenders confidence. TAF seems to signal “association” and trigger “flow”; but when I up the dosage above 60 mcg or so the action can starts to happen so fast that action seems to occur almost easy as thought…”
Bunny (December 13, 2006):
"Ooh..I don’t know about that Sigma - I find sex VERY focused if I use TAF… ^_~
I have 10 mcg spray and find three sprays intensifies intimacy, and makes me seem “In command.” I use it in tandem with i/Sexi A and TAL, and sometimes one spray of 12.5 mcgTAF, if I want EXTREME focus…"
nbully79 (March 26, 2007):
“…Great report on TAF, Lor! Back when the forum just started there were quite a few posts on TAF. People reported that with TAF there was nothing ordinary or same-old-sh*t. It made you look at the things which you had seen million times before, in a totally new light. Also with TAF you observe little nuances in things, which can definitely make everything more exciting…”
Lor (March 28, 2007):
"my to-go bottle is 12.5 .
i think 10mu is perfect.
it took one spray to get me out-of-control loving it, and i didnt require a re-spray at all.
this is one, from my perspective, that is perfect in low doses. its intense.
the reason i believe EVERYONE needs to have it is because not unlike P79, it enhances everything i put in contact with it.
its a team player, not conflicting and weird."
Sigma (March 23, 2007):
“…You also might want to look into TAF, which has a bit of a perception altering characteristic to it, as a ‘steering’ pheromone. This may facilitate her seeing you in a different light, and make her more receptive to seeing you as more than a friend, but someone she could be sexually enticed by.”
Sigma (April 19, 2007):
“…I’ve seen evidence of TAF as an intensifier as well, and actually use it in more intimate mixes in this capacity. Really heightens the mood, and makes people more into you.”
Jasmin (September 24, 2007):
"Haha - I love it… “The Monastery’s Pharmacy”!
I noticed you have a lower dosage of TAF. GREAT for mixing. In fact, in the 2.5 - 10 mcg range, it will brighten up mixes - it makes you focus more on the highlights and lowlights of each mix. Great for when you’re trying something new and figuring out how to describe the effects.
I’ve done TAF megadose (~50 mcg), and for me, thats what brings on the pan-focus effect. It’s a focus that creeps up on you. One second you’ll be walking down the street, and the next moment, you’ll be stopped in your tracks admiring the rustle of the leaves, the color of the wind, all sorts of wacky stuff that’s all around you you’ve never noticed before. I sometimes pair it with P79 to prevent me from going too ADD.
Wow, I’m glad I saw this thread, I haven’t read much about Taf but I plan to place an order soon. This is my first time hearing that it can “brighten” mixes.
To revisit the conversation that Lor and I had on this back in the day…based on further experience, it seems that TAF works by intensifying your sensations. Many people described how TAF gave them a heightened sense of focus and concentration, while I and a few others noticed in utter LACK of attention and focus.
When I use TAF in a busy setting, its as if my mind is hyper-aware of everything around me. My selective hearing is out of whack and I can hear everything around me all a the same time. My vision is picking up tiny visual nuanced everywhere. Its impossible for me to focus when I’m so actively aware of everything around me. It was a disaster when I tried to use it while studying for college. Oh and if I wear the stuff at night or later in the evening, I’ll almost always find myself tossing around in bed for hours on end…my mind is moving 100mph and I can’t sleep with the stuff.
I think that how people are affected by TAF varies depending on the personality of the person. Those who have more ‘focused’ type personalities may be able to channel their heightened sensations towards a central point…for ADD types like myself, the intensified sensations they start having can pull their attention in many directions at once.
Used in a sexual mix, or straight up used during sex, TAF does seem to intensify the sensations that surge through the body in these contexts. People may start to see you differently, as these characteristics are heightened beyond their social filters. Works well in this regard, but I wouldn’t use it sexual or otherwise in an overly busy setting.
My experiences with TAF were somewhat different than the norm. Certainly wasn’t very erotic for me! However, I did suspect it worked best as a small component of a mix rather than a standalone. It was hard to put my finger on it, but it seemed to amp up my standard mixes a wee bit.
I wrote up my twisted observations a few months back:
Gegogi your experiences with TAF aren’t that different from the norm (see bolded bits in the posts below). People mentioned that it was some kind of sensory enhancer and seems to create a focus on ‘peripheral’ things.
TAF obviously isn’t ‘directly sexual’ like say AndrostEnone, but I believe it has an ‘erotic’ side. Noticing things in a person you haven’t noticed before could definitely be ‘erotic’ in the right context (though it could backfire in your ‘enhanced sensitivity to bad breath’ example): for example “wow I never noticed before how beautiful and shiny my wife’s red hair looks - its driving me nuts today”, “the smell of my long-term girlfriend (and her quality perfume ) is really really intoxicating today - boy do I have it good!”
I suspect that you are right about TAF though working best as a relatively small component (rather than the major part) of a mix…
I’ve been playing with a bottle of Molecule F (30ml bottle/15mcg per spray) off and on since last May. I heard it may have some interesting self-effects for artists and musicians so I figured what the hay and spritzed myself from 1 to 10 sprays on numerous occasions. I really didn’t notice much at first. That is, no strong self-effects or effects on those around me. I practiced my axe, played gigs and directed ensembles. I don’t mean to say I didn’t suspect anything was brewing,** it was simply not consistent or striking enough for me to draw any conclusions. Initially I felt Molecule F distracted me or weakened my concentration. However after a few uses the before mentioned effects faded and I thought there was nothing at all to Molecule F.**
However I am a persistence OF, and used Molecule F off and on for months and certain reaction patterns began to emerge while teaching and rehearsing ensembles. First, my aural perception increased and I became painfully aware of minute pitch fluctuations and out of tune instruments. Now after all these years I learned to ignore these details as correcting them is like beating a dead horse. However my pitch sensitivity was driving me batty. Second, my sense of smell under “F” is abnormally sensitive and often painfully vivid.
As a professional musician I’m trained to be extremely aware of pitch but Molecule F takes it to the next level.Is this good? Nope, it’s actually counterproductive obsessing over minute details you can’t do anything about (students are playing crappy instruments and have poor technique). I spent way too much time tuning…
The smell thing was great for nice scents but actually made me feel like hurling when I caught wind of college student morning breath. Sheesh, their mamas didn’t teach them to brush before leaving the house. They all need to eat acidophilus too. I could smell their stomach and throat from several feet out. Lots of bad bacteria infesting them. And too often could smell women’s pussies from several feet away. Not the nice pussy smell, but the funky I need a shower ones.
Some of the things Molecule F didn’t do for me that others have experienced: no increase in pleasure while listening to music; no increased creativity for improvisation or composition; didn’t improve my inner vision as a photographer; no increased drive to get busy and work; and no apparent effects on those around me. I suspect “F” should be paired with other pheromones to be truly useful.
Finally the optimal dose for me was 4 sprays. Less didn’t do much and more seemed to reap quickly diminishing returns.”
TAF 5mcg - #19 by MHarris
MHarris (January 4, 2006):
"…To me, the awareness thing is very odd. As much as I hate leading, TAF is just too weird not to talk about a little… (also, I’m going to talk mostly about subjective effects on ME, whereas other people who’ve given me feedback have given me effects on others)
When I go on walks with 50mcg TAF, I notice myself picking up details I’ve never noticed before. I walked down the same street I’ve been on tens of times, maybe over a hundred. I notice little shops and details of shops I never noticed before.
At the same time, I did notice a sort of tunnel vision… it was sort of like “zooming in” mentally.
Maybe it’s functioning at a higher level entirely… being able to simultaneously take in more, yet use that same expanded awareness/attention on anything we decide to focus on.
I, too, find myself lingering with TAF. Everything is just so much more interesting.
I hate, really despite saying this, but it’s almost like getting sort of weird X-Men like ability.
Again, why nature has a pheromonal molecule like this, is beyond me.
In a practical sense, I think if you stick around someone else long enough for the ****TAF]( https://pheromonelabs.com/ ) to affect them, too, then they could very well discover charming facets of you they’d never have discovered before.
Could be a good fall in love (or lust) pheromone for that aspect (“you are SO fascinating!”). Could also be useful for revitalizing relationships (“I never noticed this about you before… but, wow, it’s like I’m getting to know you for the first time… there’s so much more to discover about you”).
I think it stops premature closure from the reticular activiating system in the brain, and, thus makes you more childlike."
4 drops of A314 (base), 2 IS, 2 CTTM2, and 1 Meo-Est (went out to a dance). - #28 by tacitus
tacitus (February 26, 2006):
" I have ! I have !
didn’t accomplish much outside of the norm… I think Jasmin has particularly strong responses to dopamine. Instead of being sexual, TAF makes me too intellectual, it is a “snap out of it” phero. Minute doses of TAF do improve other phero mixes… it’s the monosodium glutamate, what is that flavor additive I have in my kitchen ? Accent flavor enhancer, you put it in soup and gravy for a bigger meatier taste… TAF is like that."
tee hee hee....MEO-EST made me do it! - #10 by tacitus
tacitus (March 5, 2006):
“…Hmmmmm… definitely an autonomic response… it might be a small dose as catalyst pheromone, like TAF works for me… add in a speck of it to another mix and you have attentiveness, engagement… too much and you feel neurotic.”
Going to the dentist with pheros in hand!
Jasmin (January 31, 2007):
“…I would think TAF]( https://pheromonelabs.com/ ) and its ancient hunting pan-peripheral broad-focus attention would be horrible. He’d be focusing on everything in his periphery. And unfortunately, I won’t be in his periphery!..”
Septimus Gets TAFfy
Jasmin (September 24, 2007):
"Haha - I love it… “The Monastery’s Pharmacy”!
I noticed you have a lower dosage of TAF. GREAT for mixing. In fact, in the 2.5 - 10 mcg range, it will brighten up mixes - it makes you focus more on the highlights and lowlights of each mix. Great for when you’re trying something new and figuring out how to describe the effects.
I’ve done TAF megadose (~50 mcg), and for me, thats what brings on the pan-focus effect. It’s a focus that creeps up on you. One second you’ll be walking down the street, and the next moment, you’ll be stopped in your tracks admiring the rustle of the leaves, the color of the wind, all sorts of wacky stuff that’s all around you you’ve never noticed before. I sometimes pair it with P79 to prevent me from going too ADD.
When I use TAF in a busy setting, its as if my mind is hyper-aware of everything around me. My selective hearing is out of whack and I can hear everything around me all a the same time. My vision is picking up tiny visual nuanced everywhere. Its impossible for me to focus when I’m so actively aware of everything around me. It was a disaster when I tried to use it while studying for college. Oh and if I wear the stuff at night or later in the evening, I’ll almost always find myself tossing around in bed for hours on end…my mind is moving 100mph and I can’t sleep with the stuff.
I think that how people are affected by TAF varies depending on the personality of the person. Those who have more ‘focused’ type personalities may be able to channel their heightened sensations towards a central point…for ADD types like myself, the intensified sensations they start having can pull their attention in many directions at once.
Used in a sexual mix, or straight up used during sex, TAF does seem to intensify the sensations that surge through the body in these contexts. People may start to see you differently, as these characteristics are heightened beyond their social filters. Works well in this regard, but I wouldn’t use it sexual or otherwise in an overly busy setting.”
) that P79 and TAF have in common. They are both ‘intensifiers’ in their own respective ways. **TAF is a potent intensifier. **Both MHarris and tacitus definitely use/used TAF for intensifying the effects of other pheromones (see below)…