An Introduction to Mones: Names, Size, Strength, Use, Effects & Duration

[SteveO]

Welcome to an exciting world of pheromones. By joining our community you have taken a HUGE step in progressing a science that is cutting edge and still in its infancy. This community is globally important in recognizing pheromones, and Neuroinfluence Technology ? and their impact on human communication. There are thousands of posts here and thousands more users. Each one of us, including you, adds a unique dynamic to the community from our individual perspectives, experiences and our research and development of pheromones as consumer based products. However the most important aspect of this experiment you have joined on as a forum called PheromoneTalk, is the community itself. We are a diverse group of doctors, teachers, nuclear physicists, home-makers, bartenders, postal workers, seduction artists, musicians, entrepreneurs, students, millionaires, teenagers, soldiers, professors, rebels, scientists, the list is endless, but the goal of all of us are to better our lives and by doing so to better the world we live in. For this I am elated you have decided to join us, even if only to say hello in passing, I thank you all the same. Your participation is encouraged and welcomed.

We treat each other here with the utmost respect and courtesy. Your opinion, questions, results are just as important as anyone else here on the forum. Some questions have been asked many, many times, and presumably will continue to be asked even more. Just remember the only ?stupid? questions are the ones that are not asked. Please ask as many as you have and the members here will always be gracious in answering to the best of our abilities with the intention that one day, as soon as you are ready, you too will help in welcoming any questions with open honest feedback that you have come across in your journey of discovery.

Just as I began as a client of Androtics myself, way back in January 2007, I too asked many of these same questions. The responses I received were gracious and genuine and from those early days I was ?hooked? for life on the community here. My intentions with this guide are not to answer all your questions, not to tell you what product you should buy, not even tell you how the products work, but only answer the most basic of questions like name of the products, how I mix some consumer products up, the size, the strengths and how long some of these pheromones will last on applying them, in the bottle and can you leave them in the car? All questions, we have all had, and all questions that have been answered many times. Questions that will be asked many more times, but its OK, my only hope by answering for you in one guide is to demonstrate the caring incredible nature of PheromoneTalk and perhaps inspire you to answer some questions of your own when the opportunity presents itself.

Below are the questions and by clicking on them will bring you to the corresponding answer in the thread.

• What the Differences between the consumer products (Instant) and Putatives, Experimones, and MX?
• What are the ingredients of the mixes?
• Ammo: What’s the difference between regular and World?
• What’s the difference between Regular, 2X and 4X?
• What’s the difference between the regular size and to go?
• How long will pheromones last on skin, bottle, car, closet, shelf, etc?
• How Do I make a Combo with Consumer Products?
• What’s a Phero Baptism?
• How to Find Your Sweet Spot?
• Where should I apply my Pheromones: Application Points?
• Does it matter if its exposed skin or under my clothing?
• Can I use a cover Scent?
• What are the Range of Pheromones?
• How will people know the mones are from me?

[SteveO]

What the Differences between the consumer products (Instant) and Putatives, Experimon

What the Differences between the consumer products (Instant) and Putatives, Experimones, and MX?

Since this is only a guide based on an introduction to pheromone consumer products and not by any means, designed to override personal efforts into research and discovery I will only touch briefly the difference between consumer products and everything else.

A consumer product comes with the knowledge and know how of years and years of research of what works! Androtics backs each consumer line product with a full 365 day money back guarantee (please understand this is also only a personal explanation of mones and does not have any bearing, ruling or effect therefore on any policies set forth by the company. In other words this is my personal opinion and cannot be construed as policy of any sort).

There are “Consumer” categories for Men and Women and each have a section for “To Go” size or travel size. The men also have an “Oil Based” product section. Most Consumer products are designated with the word “Instant,” however Ammunition, Alpha A314, Turn Up The Heat are named as such and do not contain an “Instant.” They are, as I just noted, still consumer based products.

The following is a complete list of all Consumer Based Products with a designation of their use by male/female and/or unisex. At this time Androtics does not offer any products designed specifically for the GLBT community other than the unisex products.

Products for Men

• Ammunition: Alcohol Based - FF21 Scent Package - Available in 30 ml and To Go Size (For Attraction)
• TUTH: Alcohol Based - Neroli Scent Package - Available in 30 ml and To Go Size (For SEXUAL Attraction)
• Instant Jerk: Alcohol Based - Neroli Scent Package - Available in 30 ml and To Go Size (For SEXUAL Attraction)
• Instant Gentleman: Alcohol Based - Neroli Scent Package - Available in 30 ml and To Go Size (For ALPHA Status)
• Alpha A314: OIL Based - AKUTO base Scent Package - Available in 10 ml (For ALPHA Status)
• ALPHA A314 Spray Version A: AKUTO base Scent Package - Available in 5 ml To Go (For ALPHA Status). This is a stronger version than the original version of A314. Since its base is alcohol in this form that also adds more punch to its strength.
• ALPHA A314 Spray Version B: AKUTO base Scent Package - Available in 5 ml To Go (For ALPHA Status). This version has less strength than the oil version of A314, but please remember since it is in an alcohol base it more closely resembles the original A314.

Products for Women

• Instant Sexiness A: Alcohol Based - Neroli Scent Package - Available in 30 ml and To Go Size (For Attraction)
• Instant Sexiness B: Alcohol Based - Neroli Scent Package - Available in 30 ml and To Go Size (For Attraction)

Unisex Products

• Instant Openness: Alcohol Based - Neroli Scent Package - Available in 30 ml and To Go Size (For Communication)
• Instant Honesty: Alcohol Based - Neroli Scent Package - Available in 30 ml and To Go Size (For Deep Rapport)
• Instant Shine: Alcohol Based - Neroli Scent Package - Available in 30 ml and To Go Size (For Good Time Vibe / Confidence)

Any and all of these products, regardless of their designation, can be worn by both male and female. The idea is to experiment and discover what works for you. Both TUTH and Alpha A314 have been worn by some women in very small amounts with great success. Just as female products can be successfully used by men. Again please read and research individual posts on the forum and make your determination of what would be right for you based on that. This is only a very basic guide.

**Experimental Test Mixes (MX):**These are mixes of ExperiMones and Putatives that are very simply put, experimental. Some have been submitted by our fellow forum members, some merely look like they could be a good idea, some are mixing mistakes that actually show potential.

There are no guarantee they will work, but even so, they are still offered with a guarantee.

Whenever you see a post or thread about MX followed by a series of three numbers this is what the member is referring too. By their very nature they are experimental and not proven to be effective or may not even work at all. While they might sound romantic and sure, with so many users reporting on them, you might want to jump on the bandwagon. Again we encourage members to participate and do their own research, but please take heed. The members who are reporting on these mixes are mostly experienced and understand how certain pheromones interact with each other.

Everyone of us all started out using the Consumer (Instant) line products I mentioned above. I can promise you a certain type of result when you use A314. With MX??? all I can promise you is that it has pheromones in it. What it does, how it works, why it works is for you to discover and then report back to the rest of us.

Many of the MX series are tried and discovered to not be very good and therefore discontinued and shelved as obsolete. Pretty much anything that you are reading that is not in the store has been discontinued and will not be available anymore. Just a heads up as this seems to be the biggest area of questions from our newest members, who should be focusing on Consumer products to get their feet wet.

ExperiMones: Androtics sells individual KNOWN pheromone molecules under this category. Where as consumer (Instant) line products mentioned above are a mix of ExperiMones and sometimes Putatives, an ExperiMone is a single molecule. While we encourage you to research, these are not guaranteed, have no support services on what to choose or how to use them. As such, they should be left for a later time when you have a little more experience.

ExperiMones also consist of all the TA molecules which just have been named by the company as such to protect our interests.

Putatives: These are all individual molecules that show potential to be a pheromone, but have not proven themselves beyond our own research. While we encourage you to research, these are not guaranteed, have no support services on what to choose or how to use them. As such, they should be left for a later time when you have a little more experience. Putatives are unnamed molecules for testing and are named with a number to protect the companies interests. The company will not provide you with with any identifying information as to what the molecule is. All reports on the forum are the opinions of those posting them, but testing these molecules sure is fun.

Ingredients
Androtics, like many pheromone companies, does not provide you with the ingredients of the consumer products . They do their very best to protect our interests with products that they guarantee to work as promised. I encourage you to continue to ask questions and as always the community will do our best to reply.

I hope this helps

[SteveO]

Ammo: What’s the difference between regular and World?

Ammo: What’s the difference between regular and World?

This is a question we get often and really the difference is NOTHING, except the scent package.

Ammo regular edition is scented with what we call internally here at Androtics FF21. It smells like a laundry detergent or soap like Irish Spring scent. I believe, and I certainly am not a cologne guy, that it has been compared to Creed’s Green Irish Tweed

Ammo World Edition contains FF22 scent package and other than this, there is no difference. FF22 is a stronger more pronounced scent. It has been compared to Creed’s Silver Mountain Water.

You will need to read individual reports to determine which one has the right scent for you. Unless specifically searched and ordered (World Edition) you will always get Ammo FF21 Regular. Androtics does this because for the most part it is easily covered with other colognes if you choose. Like I previously mentioned its a clean - fresh out of the shower smell so it just makes sense that its easier covered with your own cologne.

Previously way back in 2007 Ammo had its own fragrance, a musky scent, called Ammo. This scent was compared to Cool Water and sometimes to Nautica.

In 2008 Ammo scent was changed to Game scent, a flowery light scent I compared to a Paul Sebastien, but again, I’m not a scent guy.

Due to FDA rule changes in the USA neither Game scent or Ammo scent are available anymore.

[SteveO]

What’s the difference between Regular, 2X and 4X?

What’s the difference between Regular, 2X and 4X?

Normally there wouldn’t be a difference between products except the strength itself. You would not get double the results from wearing double strength , although I can attest that all of us wish it were true. I say normally because in two products both found under the men’s section there actually is a considerable difference between regular, 2X and even 3X with TUTH.

TUTH and Ammo:
The two products I am referring to are TUTH and Ammo. While this is merely a guide to help our newest members in understanding the very BASICS of pheromone mixes and some general questions answered, I do feel some back story is needed here. Please bear with me as I will attempt to make this as simple as possible. This is not being done as an insult to your intelligence as quite frankly you were bright enough to find yourself here, which speaks legions about your high-intelligence, but rather to simplify it enough so that you will go on to further your own research and draw your own conclusions.

Both, TUTH and Ammunition, contain a molecule named AndrosteNONE (AKA ENONE). Where as you will see this molecule on other pheromone related content as the highest allowed by law, guaranteed to get you laid and many other ridiculous marketing ploys. Please do NOT feed into that hype as more of this molecule is NOT a good thing. In actuality very little is needed or you could easily scare your intended target away or be chased down by horny-aggressive older women.

Androstenone is actually Mother Natures dirty little trick she plays on men. When we are young we are naturally producing none at very large quantities - think pubescent years. It’s as if most boys 13 to 18 are walking around with a constant erection and most are . Unfortunately at the same time the ladies of that age are repelled by this same molecule. Its like every boy is walking around with an erection wanting to stick it into something . Well as men start to age especially around mid-thirties we start producing less and less AndrosteNONE, but by this time the ladies are comfortable with their sexuality and like the high NONE content. Guess what, the guys that age aren’t producing nearly as much as the young guys and hence the “cougar” effect comes into play.

Again a very BASIC explanation of ENONE, which leads me into how to order products like TUTH and Ammo. There are other variables but they are not for this guide.

If you are a young man, or this is your first order and you are under 45 years old, you should always order regular strength TUTH and Ammo. Unless you are looking to attract women in their late forties or older as a young man or teenager. The only real reason to order 2X of TUTH or Ammo is you are over 45 as more than likely you are producing a low amount and will need to double up, without being too repulsive to females. Another reason would be if you already understand what your sweet spot is and how to obtain it, followed below in another post. In this instance if you are using four sprays than from an economic standpoint using 2X would make sense. You would therefore only need to apply two sprays of 2X rather than four of regular. It also cuts down on the amount of scented product you are using.

Please keep in mind, that while I will cover it in greater depth in finding your sweet spot post bellow that using 2X will only give a person 2, 4, 6 or more sprays. In reality while it is possible on some level, you don’t really have the capability to get a half spray out the bottle. If your sweet spot is 3 sprays you are either stuck at to low a dosage at 2 or to high a dosage of 4. It makes a very big difference.

Other Products strengths:
Many other products come with an option for different strengths. For the most part most users find their best results of the social products such as IO, IH, Ishine to be somewhere between 3 and four sprays. While I would say it is still a good idea to determine your sweet spot with these products first, you will generally not have an OD (a bad experience). On that note these products can be ordered in higher concentrations.

If a user is wearing 4 sprays of Ishine 4 of IO and 2 of IH they can save some money and wear a whole lot less sprays and cologne. In this example you could go with Ishine 4X and wear one spray, IO 4X and wear one spray and IH 2X and wear one spray. You just saved a bunch of money, your bottle lasts longer and you don’t smell so much like the annoying cologne guy .

[SteveO]

What’s the difference between the regular size and to go?

What’s the difference between the regular size and to go?

If we are talking about size, they have 5 mL which is measured by a machine that is so precise it is similarly used in hospitals and research labs to dole out liquids. Where as for both 30 mL and 5 ml and the 10 mL A314 bottles will not be filled to the top but contain their corresponding unit of measurements precisely dispensed. Many to go bottles will give approximately 40 sprays. If a person were to use 3 sprays a day, 5 days a week you would effectively get almost 3 weeks of use.

A 30 mL bottle has about 200 sprays: Again at 3 sprays a day, 5 days a week you would get about 13 weeks of usage

The 10 mL A314 is oil based and comes with a dropper top with approximately 200 drops. At 2 drops a day, 5 days a week this would give you about 20 weeks of usage.

The contents of the bottle, otherwise, are exactly the same

[SteveO]

How long will pheromones last on skin, bottle, car, closet, shelf, etc?

How long will pheromones last on skin, bottle, car, closet, shelf, etc?

Average lifespan of any and all pheromones has a shelf life of three years. Extremes of heat and/or cold can damage the mones. Direct sunlight is also mentioned as a potential for damage by community members. Many members, including myself, have left pheromone bottles in the center console of our cars for extended periods without noticeable damage or decreased effectiveness. While it is not recommended it is plausible that at some time it will happen. I live in Memphis TN where the inside heat of my car has reached well over 200 degrees on a hot summer day. Again not recommended but I’ve never noticed any difference in effectiveness.

I like to carry to go bottles of products for easy application in the car before I enter a venue if my drive takes a while to get me there. Please keep in mind that pheromones are natural “odors” and can infuse themselves into materials, such as car rugs, upholstery. As such I usually tend to keep the nozzle close to my skin so as to not mist the entire car, thus creating a smelly car.

Most alcohol based pheromone products have a life of about 2-6 hours depending on the product. Heavier molecules like androsteNONE (-NONE) can last 12 hours or longer. Products like Instant Shine is usually on the low end and for me lasts about 2-4 hours.

Oil based A314 lasts about 6-8 with the very best exposure at around 4-5 hours.

All pheromone products depend on environmental variables such as heat or chill of the venue. Pheromones diffuse quicker in hot environments so if its warm and humid, much like Memphis, TN, their effectiveness can be greatly diminished much quicker. In a cooler climate they will last longer.

You do not need to store your pheromones in any special containers, or in the fridge . I keep mine on a book shelf in my room and have had some since early 2007, that as far as I can tell, have not lost any effectiveness. Most of those are empty now though and I have new stuff.

Hope this helps

[SteveO]

How Do I make a mix with Consumer Products?

How Do I make a Combo with Consumer Products?

This is the easiest question to answer thanks to Jasmin and MHarris. It’s really as simple as taking the succinct description of the product and adding it to another product on your skin. An example for me would be:
A314: James Bond Alpha Male status
add Ammo and Now I get Sexy James Bond Alpha Male status
add Ishine and Now I get Sexy James Bond Alpha Male status who everyone likes to be around cause I make them smile
add some IO and Now I get Sexy James Bond Alpha Male status who everyone likes to be around cause I make them smile and people are so open to talking with.

Yep it really is that easy to make a combo using any of the Consumer (Instant) products . You also want to remember to always use your skin as your canvas, this was you can always change it tomorrow to something different if the results weren’t what you expected.

Here’s my succinct descriptions of each product:

Products for Men

• Ammunition: Sexy Man
• Turn Up The Heat: Sexual Man
• Instant Jerk: Every Girls Sexual Fantasy
• Instant Gentleman: Warm Charismatic Alpha Sean Connery Guy
• Alpha A314: James Bond Alpha Male

Products for Women

• Instant Sexiness A: Angelina Jolie a lady for any occasion, but in control
• Instant Sexiness B: Natalie Portman, soft feminine and girly-girl

Unisex Products

• Instant Openness: I feel like I can talk for hours - the quantity of the conversation
• Instant Honesty: Deep rapport -I feel like I can talk about anything - the Quality of the conversation
• Instant Shine: Whenever I am around you I’m always smiling - how attractive

So again all I am doing is deciding what each product means to me and simply combining my descriptions with the other products description to come up with a combo I can spray on my skin. Remember that these are my descriptions and you will come up with your own over time. Keep in mind combinations of ENONE based products like TUTH, AMMO and IJerk isn’t such a good idea unless you understand what you are doing. Again though this is only a guide and as always I encourage you to ask questions and experiment.

[SteveO]

What’s a Phero Baptism?

What’s a Phero Baptism?

Its really as simple and common place as what every one of us at some point or another have done. When we first get all our mones that first time we get super excited and want to go just a little bit nutty. I mean after all, who can blame you with such amazing reports and exciting adventures?

It was the very first thing I did when I signed on and I had an incredible week of WOWs! Its basically a matter of spraying yourself a few shots of everything you get and going out. Just be careful and don’t overdue it on NONE based products like Ammo, IJ, TUTH or you will OD (Bad reaction). Remember when it comes to NONE, more is not a good thing, but chose one of those and spray yourself three times and then three times of everything else. Make sure you sin around in three complete circles while repeating “I will have fun and allow myself to live life to the fullest.” Once done hop to your door on one foot while clucking like a chicken. OR, in other words go out and have some fun.

Sure, many members are pretty scientific and thorough, but every one of us have done this and its an important step too. It gives you that opportunity to go out and simply enjoy the mones and forget about sweet spots and what this does and what that does. There will be enough time for that too. In the meantime get it out of your system and go and have yourself a blast.

[SteveO]

How to Find Your Sweet Spot?

How to Find Your Sweet Spot?

OK so hopefully you got the PheroBaptism out of your system and now its time to get to the real business of discovery. You’ll want to understand how each product works so that you can get the most “bang” for your buck. I put this guide together, quite some time ago, but revised it so it’s more current.

Just remember with the socials you really can’t OD (Bad experience) with them. Products like IShine, IO, IH, CTTM, are all designed to increase communication. You are certainly welcome to use this guide if you choose with them, but I think you’ll find most of us use about 3 or more sprays with them regularly. This guide is more designed to work better with products that alter our attraction factor to others.

Remember this is only a guide and not an absolute must do, but it can and will help you in discovering the best amount you should use. Pheromones are not one size fits all so this will help you in determining what works best for you.

It’s a good idea when applying the pheromones to ensure that you are using only one pheromone product at a time. This step is important and shouldn’t be skipped. It ensures you are getting the proper results without extenuating circumstances. What works for Ammo, might be completely different for TUTH. However if you are familiar with a product like Ishine and are adding TUTH to the mix, just remember that it might give you completely different results if later you were to remove IShine from the mix. If at all possible test individual mixes by themselves.

Taking into consideration that above, please follow these guidelines and soon you too, will have experience with your very own sweet spot.
Use one (1) spray each day for three days
Take a couple days off
Use two (2) sprays each day for three days
Take a couple days off
Use three (3) sprays each day for three days
Take a couple days off
Use four (4) sprays each day for three days
Take a couple days off

If you want, on your days off from that product you could go to another product, alternating between social and attraction. The days and schedule listed above do not have to be sequential days. If you only have a few days a week to test, then test those few days a week. I would advise you to use the same product then those days. Remember the key here is to have fun and find what works best for you. Everyone is different and there are lots of variables. Use your good sense

I also suggest keeping a journal. This journal should include any hits noticed or anything out of the ordinary. Even if you don’t believe it was a hit you should write it down.

I have discussed this with numerous forum members and everyone always asks me: “what happens if three sprays is my sweet spot, should I just stop there?” The answer is no! Here’s why: you have no way of knowing if you just stop at three (or where ever) if you don’t push it above that if maybe more is better. Nothing to compare it too. Three maybe good, but four maybe better, so if you stop at three you might be short-changing yourself.

Again though, the point of this exercise is to discover what works best for you. Please use the method that works best for you too

For a more complete thread with community member questions please check out this post: How to find your sweet spot...

[SteveO]

Where should I apply my Pheromones: Application Points?

Where should I apply my Pheromones: Application Points?

While it must be getting boring to some of you to keep reading me stress the importance of figuring out, through personal research and experimentation, what works best for you, it is such that I feel it must be reemphasized throughout. Discovering what makes pheromones tick is done through personal observations and experimentation. In other words, what works for me may not be what works for you or even what you prefer. I encourage you to self-examine and make those determinations for yourself.

This is a pretty common question and really there is no right or wrong way to do it. In that regard its widely accepted to use the sprays on a pulse point like the neck, wrists, elbows. somewhere on the body that naturally heats up. Some people like to apply it wherever they would normally apply cologne or parfum and its a great idea. I’ve heard of applications on the crotch, behind ears, neck, elbows, ankles and most other areas of the body. Have fun and let us know how it works for you.

Personally I like to put some Ammo on my Adam’s apple, A314 on my jaw line, Ishine on one side of the neck and IH on the other. However there is absolutely no rhyme or reason as to why. I’ve been using pheromones since 1992 (maybe even longer, but I forget now) and Androtics products since 1/07. In all that time I cannot say that I have personally noticed any difference in how or where I apply the mones. Notice that I said personally? Other members will say there is a difference in how they are applied and the key here to remember it is personal preference. That’s exactly why I mention that it’s important to do your own research and observations and make a judgment based on what you like. Be sure to report about it though to add to the forum.

There are also bits of speculation that you will read about whether applying a product on the back of the neck, under the nose, or maybe even the wrists will work in a specific way. As any person with Italian ancestry can tell you, most of us talk with our hands. By this theory if I apply a product on my wrists and then proceed to wave my hands around when I talk, wouldn’t it spread quicker? Again I don’t believe personally it is neither right or wrong. While the wrist is a good pulse point on its own, waving your hands around will work as a fan to spread the pheromones. With that said the other side of this debate would say if pheromones depend on the bodies heat for better diffusion, wouldn’t waving your hands around act as a fan to cool your wrists and therefore slow the diffusion? Both valid points and only really one way to determine which works for you.

Another idea is by using a product like A314 oil directly under your nose you get self-effects. I used to be a proponent of this, that is until I realized with every swig of beer I was ingesting a bit of A314. I’m sure a tiny drop would not be harmful, but a tiny drop every day for years on end may or may not be. Personally I stopped this practice. The other theory, again something I used to practice, is by placing a product that you did not want the effects of (perhaps you do not like the aggression of -ENONE rage) on the back of your neck it would be less likely to adversely effect you. Those that disagree with this theory say that if a pheromone product can effect someone across a room, than the difference of maybe 8 inches between the back of the neck and the nose is such that it would not make any difference. Please make your own decision and base those on personal experiences. I would appreciate it if you posted those experiences on the forum to further the discussion and enhance the site.

[SteveO]

Does it matter if its exposed skin or under my clothing?

Does it matter if its exposed skin or under my clothing?

There are many differences of opinions on where to apply products here on PheromoneTalk and really it adds so much greatness to the forum. While I do believe the question you have whether to apply under clothing, or exposed skin will arise and it is a valuable question, but really it comes down to personal preferences. In other words there is no right or wrong answer to this question. To be fair I will do my best to answer with both sides of the coin.

I like to wear my mones on exposed skin, however in the winter it’s not always possible . I mean there is only so much exposed skin and I resent the fact that many guys and gals here will have you believe I am some kind of man-slut !. Lies I tell you, all lies. LOL

The theory goes that if you wear a product like TUTH under a shirt in the club (like on your chest) the shirt will slow down the diffusion of the product. This might be true (I don’t know), but what I do know is that if you are going to do this be absolutely sure to get yourself some oxyclean or a detergent enhancer like it to wash your clothes. Pheromones are chemical synthesis of natural body odors derived from sweat, urine, etc. It’s not something that you want your clothes smelling like.

Unfortunately I learned the hard way. I had bought a very nice, very expensive, brand new shirt and the very first time I wore it was the very first time I wore a particularly smelly product under my shirt. Needless to say I did not do enough personal research and washed the shirt the next day. What did it in was the dryer because essentially I permeated the smell into the shirt and by all things Pink and Squishy it smelled BAD! I washed that shirt numerous times, even had it soak in pure oxyclean overnight and it was ruined for sure. I practically cried when I the disabled Vet truck picked it up with my other give aways .

Please do yourself a favor and get some type of oxyclean and wash your clothes with them. I use it with everything know and have never had a problem again.

I understand that more than likely this answer leaves you with more questions. It only adds to the importance of personal experiences.

[SteveO]

Can I use a cover Scent?

Can I use a cover Scent?

I’ll never forget when I first stated using Androtics colognes way back in 07. There was one in particular that was quite odoriferous and because of patent restrictions was not allowed to have a cover scent. I was wearing this particular one to my local BuckyStars and quite frequently I would wear it under my shirt sleeve, under some clothing, under anything and then apply a cover scent. Keep in mind I am not big on colognes and it was difficult to bring myself to wear them even though I smelled like the cat peed on me and I don’t even own a cat!

Well this one time I sprayed the stuff in the car in front of BuckyStars and was about to go woo the baristas out of their clothes hopefully. But just then I realized oh by the God of all things smelly, atrocious and indecent I had no cologne, nothing to cover this up with. I already sprayed it on my wrist and as for a jacket I had none, not to mention it was pretty warm out. Damn I was screwed and there was a super cute barista working that day. Oh days of past .

So in I go all self-conscious and thinking at any minute some little kid holding onto their mommy’s leg would scream and point at me and say eww mommy he smells like pee! Out of the mouth of babes right . Well I made it up to the register and nothing yet. The cute barista takes my order, I’m thinking I’m in the clear, then stops turns around takes a big whiff and I’m like sinking. My heart starts thumping about to tear out of my chest. I can feel my esophagus swelling in my neck, cutting off the air. I’m gasping, my eyes start watering. My brain is running, what can I say, what should I do, I should just bust out into a sprint and leave. My mind is racing and before I can do any of this here it comes. She stands there with the tiny little spotlights glowing above her illuminating her flowing blond hair, her blue eyes sparkle reflecting off the stainless giant machines that whir and whistle. Her voice like golden Goddess breaks the screaming agony in my head and like an angel about to lay ruin to legions of darkness, a mother cooing to her new born, she speaks: "Whats that smell? Her head slightly back and her mouth in an O she follows with it smells soooo goood. I can see her eyes glistening as she ever so slightly runs her tongue over her lips, moistening the pink glow of flesh, she struts her chest out a tiny fraction so that her breasts protrude from her shirt ever so gently, she leans over and says, Ewww SteveO, you smell so good!

To this day I will never forget that reaction. Where as I was dreading, hating the smell of the mones, thinking surely I would be called out on them, she reassured my faith in the female species and forever ingrained in me a valuable lesson. Just because I may not like the scent, does not mean she won’t. I really haven’t worn cologne since

To answer your question though, pheromones can be covered with a scent. What I recommend is that if you are using a product on one arm, apple the cologne, parfum on the other. I’ve read and heard about members letting their mones dry down and spraying right over the application points. While I have not done this, my best advice to you would be to seek out that which works best for you. If you do it this way, pay notice to what the effects are and on days you do it differently.

I will say though that you should NOT do it this way with A314. It is an oil based product and as such the alcohol from the cologne will diffuse it much quicker than you want and you would not have A314 any longer.

For the most part Androtics pheromones in the consumer line except as noted in a post above are scented with Neroli. Neroli is a light orange flower and is used as a basenote in 86% of the colognes on the market today. It’s diffusive properties are incredible and as such is easily paired with colognes and parfum.

[SteveO]

What are the Range of Pheromones?

What are the Range of Pheromones?

This question will not be easy to answer as there are countless variables involved which will greatly influence the answer, but will not be determined what they are until you actually experience them. Some of these variables are:

• Wind/fan
• climate
• humidity
• indoor/outdoor
• conditioned air
• heat
• closed environment
• etc. etc

If you were in a car with the windows up while its 90 degrees outside as opposed to a car with the air on, its going to change the environment enough to influence the range of the mones. While the car that’s like an oven its going to effect everyone much quicker because of the heat and the closed environment. The car with the air on it will still effect everyone because the closed environment but the key difference would be the air would be cooler thus slowing down diffusion. Also take into account whether the car is recycling the air, or is air being taken into the car from vents thus changing the environmental air inside the car.

Confused yet?

Basically the hotter the environment the quicker the mones will work, but also the quicker they will dissipate. If you were to sit outside on a 98 degree day with humidity of 45% (say in Memphis mid-July) you’d sweat the alcohol based mones off rather quickly. Many of us slow the diffusion down by adding a layer of DPG or lotion to the application point. Please search the forum as there are many posts about how to do it.

In the winter an application of alcohol based mones might take 10 minutes to start being effective where as in the summer it might only take a few seconds. Really depends on the environment.

The actual square footage will also be effected by the environment. Outside in the spring during a windy day you might effect someone 50 feet away, but of course they would have no idea where its coming from anyway. This actually leads to the most basic generalized answer I can give you.

Consider that your most effective area of mones will come from a 12 foot radius around you. More than likely it will effect others, but if you’re not there then it doesn’t really matter anyway .

[SteveO]

How will people know the mones are from me?

Typically what I like to do, especially when in a crowd like a bar/club/party is to socialize and mingle. This actually serves me in several ways. One it shows that I am a social person and accepted by others. It also creates a pheromone trail which directly can be traced back to you. If a woman enters the group of people I am talking with she might feel attraction but not know where it is coming from or she might actually think its coming from someone its not. Of course I want her to be interested in me so after continuing my conversation to enhance my pheromone signature with congruent behavior I’ll leave the group, thus taking my signature with me. Now if she is mistakenly attributing my signature to someone else, as I leave the signature trail leaves and her emotions change. If she is feeling wow this guy makes me feel hot, and then when I leave she isn’t feeling that heat her mind then re-attributes the hotness back to the guy that just left rather than the guy who is still there with her, but she is no longer feeling that heat. When I return a bit later she starts feeling those emotions again and now she is properly applying those emotions to me rather than some random person.

By doing this I am also doing it to every person in the room. As I walk away the feelings they have walk away with me. As I get close again those feelings get stronger the closer I get.

Now you are socializing with people and it looks like you are mingling and talking to every person in the room. Think the most popular person in the room. Regardless of what mone you are wearing this little trick works like a charm. No one will ever steal your signature. Can people actually steal your signature? Sure, but only if you allow it. You shouldn’t be the person wearing a social mone like IO standing in the corner with their arms crossed in front of them (Body language closed off) while refusing to make eye contact and not talking to anyone. If you felt like there was an open person around you who wanted to socialize and saw a person laughing and enjoying themselves next to the person I previously described, which would you attribute the open vibe to? Exactly! You still need to do your part

[forynav]

That cover scent post was a lot of help, Steve! Thanks!

[songbird36]

Wow on the sent the next following day, meaning if u dont wash the clothes right away. That is very wild!

[CoolKat]

@Steve

I will say though that you should NOT do it this way with A314. It is an oil based product and as such the alcohol from the cologne will diffuse it much quicker than you want and you would not have A314 any longer.

Does this mean don’t spray your ammo directly over where you applied A314?
I have done that a few times
Or are you just referring to regular colognes?

[shikap]

awesome introduction post!

learned a lot.

Thanks Steve!

[level]

@Steve

How Do I make a Combo with Consumer Products?

This is the easiest question to answer thanks to Jasmin and MHarris. It’s really as simple as taking the succinct description of the product and adding it to another product on your skin. An example for me would be:
A314: James Bond Alpha Male status
add Ammo and Now I get Sexy James Bond Alpha Male status
add Ishine and Now I get Sexy James Bond Alpha Male status who everyone likes to be around cause I make them smile
add some IO and Now I get Sexy James Bond Alpha Male status who everyone likes to be around cause I make them smile and people are so open to talking with.

Yep it really is that easy to make a combo using any of the Consumer (Instant) products . You also want to remember to always use your skin as your canvas, this was you can always change it tomorrow to something different if the results weren’t what you expected.

Here’s my succinct descriptions of each product:

Products for Men

• Ammunition: Sexy Man
• Turn Up The Heat: Sexual Man
• Instant Jerk: Every Girls Sexual Fantasy
• Instant Gentleman: Warm Charismatic Alpha Sean Connery Guy
• Alpha A314: James Bond Alpha Male

Gay Male Product

• Mystery Boy: Party Boy

Products for Women

• Instant Sexiness A: Angelina Jolie a lady for any occasion, but in control
• Instant Sexiness B: Natalie Portman, soft feminine and girly-girl

Unisex Products

• Instant Openness: I feel like I can talk for hours - the quantity of the conversation
• Instant Honesty: Deep rapport -I feel like I can talk about anything - the Quality of the conversation
• Instant Shine: Whenever I am around you I’m always smiling - how attractive

Pre-Release Products Unisex

• Come Talk To Me (mix2): Mix of Instant Honesty and Instant Openness -I feel like I can talk for hours about anything
• Spaceland: Party Naked!

So again all I am doing is deciding what each product means to me and simply combining my descriptions with the other products description to come up with a combo I can spray on my skin. Remember that these are my descriptions and you will come up with your own over time. Keep in mind combinations of NONE based products like TUTH, AMMO and IJerk isn’t such a good idea unless you understand what you are doing. Again though this is only a guide and as always I encourage you to ask questions.

Thanks for the scenarios if you can make a few more I think its helps allot with the different mixes. new ppl can relate to it I believe

[SteveO]

@level

Thanks for the scenarios if you can make a few more I think its helps allot with the different mixes. new ppl can relate to it I believe

That’s every consumer line product we carry. Not sure what I can make a few more on?